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From: Sasson Margaliot <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] [Bulk] Re: Age of Zhong et al. (2010) R1b-related lineages
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:30:43 +0200
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I do not think Anotole is using the term "homogeneous cluster", I just made
it up.

Even if YDNA mutations do not influence the phenotype, they all the time get
themselves "accidentally" attached to different sub-populations, and enjoy
effects positive and negative selection acting on effectively associated
genes.

I do not really understand your confidence in applicability of theoretically
derived formulas, which do not take selection into account.




On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Vincent Vizachero <>wrote:

> On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Sasson Margaliot wrote:
>
> > I was not talking about the logarithmic rule.
>
> Nonetheless, his method for calculating confidence intervals is still
> wrong.
>
> > By the way, Logarithmic Rule is very helpful because it allows to
> > recognize
> > non-homogeneous clusters very easily.
>
> Instead of "recognize", perhaps you could use "perceive": the latter
> term introduces the idea that the perceptions can be quite wrong.
>
> VV
>
>
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