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From: vernade didier <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] R1a with DYS392=13
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 01:26:23 +0000 (GMT)
In-Reply-To: <00d201cbb5d4$7d552f60$77ff8e20$@org>


Thank you Lawrence . The 2 types of R-M420 differ on several slow mutating markers . I hope we can find more. How many markers were tested in this study on Norway (see below - my post) ? I would like to see if all have this DYS385=12-12 .

Didier


> 1) SGNXD and BW6VV have a _recent_
> mutation of DYS392 from 11 to 13.  They
> are not in the ancient cluster I am talking about, which
> apparently branched
> off before the Indo-European expansion.
>
> 2) Yes, the cluster I am talking about is known to be M198+
> and M17+ .
>
> 3) M420+ M459- can be found in this project:
>
> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1Asterisk/default.aspx?section=yresults
>
> > From: vernade didier [mailto:]
> > I never was able to get a hand on the database of the
> work on Norway :
> > "Geographical heterogeneity of Y-chromosomal lineages
> in Norway" and none
> of the
> > haplotypes in the public databases I checked for
> DYS392=13 in a R1a
> background
> > are from Norway. Would this cluster be Viking ?
> >
> > I have 2 more questions :
> > Is it established that this cluster is M198+ ?
> >
> > Where can I find a M420+ M459- M198- haplotype ?
>





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