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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Haplogroup I1 and I2 haplotypes not in Ysearch
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:58:08 -0700
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I missed your guys at bottom of spreadsheet first time around. kit 159027
is a member of I2b2 haplogroup. Remember it? It was the haplogroup found
in good quantity in that German cave of bones along with some R1a guys ---
about 3000 or 3500 years old.

More generally, your i1 collection has a large assortment of routine L22+
I1d Scandinavian-like haplotypes along with a number of I1-ASgeneric
haplotypes (L22-)

I would not go deep clade in testing within haplogroup I for the cases seen
in your spreadsheet. They are too predictable, and deep clade almost never
is called for in I1 or most of haplogroup I for that matter. There are
exceptions; but I see none in your case. For the haplotypes I identified
you could start downstream with more specific snps if you wanted to verify.


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Faux" <>
To: "genealogy-dna" <>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 12:15 PM
Subject: [DNA] Haplogroup I1 and I2 haplotypes not in Ysearch


> Ken,
>
> You may be interested in the mostly Norse I1 signatures in my Shetland
> Islands Project (seen at the very top and very bottom of the chart). Most
> are not found in Ysearch of any publicly available database. One is so
> unusual FTDNA have not made a prediction, but I simply guessed at the one
> with a dash, it looks I-ish to me. They are found here:
>
> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/shetland/default.aspx?iframe=ydna
>
> I am at a loss as to what to tell these participants in the way of SNP
> testing. Is the I1 deep clade testing pretty up to date, or should we
> wait
> a bit until some further promising SNPs are added? I don't have the time
> or
> inclination to communicate with individual participants so want to include
> a
> general statement in a bulk e-mail via FTDNA. My personal contact list on
> Yahoo by worthies who hacked my password.
>
> David K. Faux.
>
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