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From: David Stedman <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] NPEs or somthing else?
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:07:05 +0000 (GMT)
In-Reply-To: <56900.14877.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>


Sorry missed surname E of the first table edited below

--- On Fri, 18/3/11, David Stedman <> wrote:

From: David Stedman <>
Subject: [DNA] NPEs or somthing else?
To:
Date: Friday, 18 March, 2011, 19:17

What am I looking at here?

These are tables generated by the Mcgee utility using the Hybrid mutation model

.......A1....A2....A3....A4....A5....A6....B1....B2....C....D....E
A1.....37.....3.....1.....1.....1.....2.....3.....4....4....4....4
A2......3....37.....2.....2.....2.....3.....4.....5....5....5....5
A3......1.....2....37.....0.....0.....1.....2.....3....3....3....3
A4......1.....2.....0....37.....0.....1.....2.....3....3....3....3
A5......1.....2.....0.....0....37.....1.....2.....3....3....3....3
A6......2.....3.....1.....1.....1....37.....3.....4....4....2....4
B1......3.....4.....2.....2.....2.....3....37.....1....1....1....3
B2......4.....5.....3.....3.....3.....4.....1....37....2....2....4
C.......4.....5.....3.....3.....3.....4.....1.....2...37....2....4
D.......4.....5.....3.....3.....3.....2.....1.....2....2...37....4
E ......4.....5.....3.....3.....3.....4.....3.....4....4....4...37



.......A2 ....A4 ....A5 ....B1 ....C ....E
A2 ....67......3......2......5.....5.....5
A4 .....3.....67......1......4.....4.....4
A5 .....2......1.....67......3.....3.....3
B1 .....5......4......3.....67.....2.....4
C ......5......4......3......2....67.....4
E ......5......4......3......4.....4....67

This concerns 5 families none of whom have known NPEs in there line with the possible exception of D who I haven’t made contact with yet.

These people are part of  an I1d sub cluster that Ken Nordtvedt reported in May last year with a hot spot from Scotlandhttp://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/read/GENEALOGY-DNA/2010-05/1273884486
All people share the same off modal values at DYS570 and CDYa

Family A has an off modal value at DYS576 & families B,C and D have an off modal value at DYS458

All of these families are brickwalled in America but have British sounding surnames, family A has been well researched back to the middle 18th C. Family B has three name matches but no paper trails between them and are all brickwalled in the 19th C.

>From my calculations all families appear to connect around about the early 17th C. which is presumably before the lines came to America. Am I looking at cases of NPEs / adoption or is there another explanation?





     

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