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From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Re : Re : new earliest I tree structure
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:15:58 -0600
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According to Adriano's spreadsheet of 23andMe results including v3, there
are no y positions 1342297 or 5448802 covered by their chip.



-----Original Message-----
From: Bob May
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 2:05 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [DNA] Re : Re : new earliest I tree structure

The reference and info I gave is for L460 from the FTDNA Y Chromosome
Browser rs7892855 = 7939415 which is one of the 3 locations given on the
NCBI link Anne gave they being rs7892855 = 1342297, 5448802 or 7879415 all A
= Ancestral C
= derived
>From this we know that FTDNA are testing position 7939415.
Goldstick's and Joiner's results were on 7939415 position, I don't know what
position the other results were on.
Are the no calls on one or both of the other two positions?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Re : Re : new earliest I tree structure


> Please, just explain what you are talking about? I am lost.
> What's the issue?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob May
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:22 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Re : Re : new earliest I tree structure
>
> Compare with the link that Ann sent this is the one of the 3 locations she
> refers to
> FTDNA results are on this one location
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 4:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Re : Re : new earliest I tree structure
>
>
>>I don't know what you are saying? Adriano's database shows 20 derived
>>folks
>> in old I2a...... and I2b...... for this snp, and 3 ancestral folks:
>> Goldstick, Laurens, Joiner
>>
>> All 20 of those derived will of course be P215+ just like the I2* people
>> are.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bob May
>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:27 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [DNA] Re : Re : new earliest I tree structure
>>
>> http://ymap.ftdna.com/cgi-bin/gb2/gbrowse/hs_chrY/ Found in a I-P215
>> person on an Illumina chip assay ChrY:7939415..7939415 (+ strand)
>> YCC_haplogroup: Approx. hg: I-P215
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 11:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DNA] Re : Re : new earliest I tree structure
>>
>>
>>> After checking Adriano Squecco "remarks" file, I see that this SNP is on
>>> 23and me v3 only. It may simply be that the people with no-calls (or at
>>> least, most of them) simply tested with v1 or v2.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Itaï Perez.
>>>
>>> ----- Ann Turner <> a écrit :
>>>> That's a higher proportion of no-calls for rs7892855 than I like to
>>>> see.
>>>> The
>>>> entry at dbSNP shows it maps to three different positions on the Y.
>>>> That
>>>> might make it problematic.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/projects/SNP/snp_ref.cgi?rs=7892855
>>>>
>>>> Ann Turner
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:12 AM, <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > You can check it on Adriano Squecco excel file.
>>>> > A is ancestral and C is derived.
>>>> > On this file there are 3 I2 negative to L460, 19 positive, and 48
>>>> > with
>>>> > no-calls.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>> >
>>>> > Itaï Perez.
>>>> >
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