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Subject: Re: [DNA] Markers that determine someone is Irish and Scottish
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:58:24 -0700


over a year ago someone put out a set of markers (not haplotypes, which wasn't part of the question) that defined Irish and Scottish dna. I did a thorough check on my husband, and he had
neither group of markers completely-or even mostly. yet his Ydna is of Scotland. how did I verify it? severally by way of FTdna's Ancestral Origins, their matches, and 23andme's matches.
Ancestral Origins gave a very slight advantage to Scots ancestry at the time. FTdna's matches provided several Scottish surnames and no Irish surnames. 23andme matched him to a
descendant of Gregor More of Cromdale Scotland (circa 1685-90). to this day the connection has not been documented, but I'm still trying to find it.

moral is, don't count on markers to tell you your ancestry, it won't work every time. and remember, this science is still in it's infancy. patience and rolling up our sleeves and working
at it from each of our standpoints (and together, forget the "my way or the highway" attitudes, it just holds things back) things will eventually be resolved. I'm as eager as anyone for
answers, and I will say they're tantilizingly close but not there yet. I get flickers at 23, connections that sometimes are surprising, and, with just a little work, may have a
connection on another, indirect, Scottish lineage of my husband's. some day my German's will answer to the wild goose chase they've been sending me on, there are already hints that I'm
on to them, via 23andme.

Cornelia

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> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:53:38 +1000
> From: Karen Hodges >Subject: [DNA] Markers that determine someone is Irish and Scottish
> To: ge
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> I have heard that scientist are starting to discover that some markers
> areconnect to origins of 'being Irish' and others point to 'being
> 'Scottish'.Can anyone please tell me what Y dna marker numbers point to being Irish
> andwhat point to being Scottish?
>
> Karen



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