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From: "G. Magoon" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] [yDNAhgI] Ultra-Norse I1 L22+ gets 2 SNPs
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 02:37:13 -0400
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It looks like L813 = Z719. I guess Z719 never made it into Thomas' ymap
browser. In any case, you can see the proposed position with respect to
other SNPs/candidate SNPs here:
http://www.box.net/shared/kul6n3ydvz8yh5nu024n

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt
<>wrote:

> An outlier of the I1-uN L22+ clade did a WTY with results reported today,
> and was found derived for L137 and new L813.
>
> But another earlier I1-uN L22+ WTY dna seems to be ancestral for L137. His
> WTY did not cover the site for new L813.
>
> People in I1-ultraNorse can test for L137 right now, because this snp is
> already in the FTDNA catalog, being a tag for the Scot clade of M284+ M223+
> elsewhere in haplogroup I.
> Actually, L813 is now in the catalog as well.
>
> Characteristics of I1-uN are usually 11-14-14-16 at DYS464, high value at
> DYS449 (with an exception), and 11 at DYS461. And the usual 10 at DYS511 ,
> 13 at DYS462, 23 at DYS390, 14,14 or 14,15 at DYS385 which is present in
> most of L22+
>
> Norway seems to be the hot spot for I1-uN although it spills over into
> Sweden and Denmark a little and to parts of Scotland and other spots in the
> British Isles.
>
> I1-uN has some further subclades, one with 9 at DYS438. Another subclade
> with the 438=9 has 12 at 439, 13,29 at 389, and the low 27 at 449 with 461
> back to its standard 12 and 464 being 12,14,14,16.
>
> All these I1-uN clades might want to consider L137 and L813. It could be
> these snps divide these uN clades in an unusual manner. And as usual with
> WTY discoveries we have to find out if the snps are private-like or not
>
> Ken
>
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