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From: Raymond Wing <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] U106 "frisian" haplotype
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:14:12 -0700 (PDT)
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I have been working on the Z SNPs below L48. I have created a spreadsheet at: which lists modal values (111 markers) as well as haplotypes for most of the SNPs. The major exception is Z326/Null 425 as there is already an FT-DNA Project treating this clade.


From: Kenneth Nordtvedt <>
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] U106 "frisian" haplotype

You seem to have all kinds of outlier marker values.  Is there anywhere
someone brazen enough to say this is the modal or founding haplotype for
L48+ clade?

-----Original Message-----
From: Eldon Wade
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] U106 "frisian" haplotype


I was in your Frisian cluster.  One difference I had from most of those in
the Frisian cluster was my 390 has a back mutation from 23 to 22.

To see the 111 marker haplotype you can go to and I am kit# 21804.

You can also go to
and click on the file named "111-marker sandbox and SNP status
2011.11.3.xls".  Charles Moore has done a great job identifying unique
markers values for those of us with very close haplotypes.  You can quickly
find me by searching on my kit#.


-----Original Message-----
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Kenneth Nordtvedt
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: [DNA] U106 "frisian" haplotype

I want to find the clade haplotype for the subhaplogroup of U106+
geographically associated with the Netherlands to Denmark coastal swath.

It has 23 at 390, and both 447 and H4 have shifts from the Atlantic Modal
Haplotype.  What else, DYS487, I think?  The whole package out to 67 or 111
markers would be of interest.

I have some of this information on my old PC, but it is now a horrible
experience to try to get that machine fired up.


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