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From: vernade didier <>
Subject: [DNA] Re : What do make of this?
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 11:58:14 +0000 (GMT)
In-Reply-To: <890C46D6354A4BE498BFCB754D4E2FB6@WalterGabennesc>


Thanks for the update Walter. Any improvements about the tree and the 5 SNPs ?

Didier
I don’t know why some individuals get so “hung up” when they are white and find out their Y-Chromosome is E1b1a Sub-Saharan African.  When I found out that I was in Haplogroup E1b1a back in 2003 it was a real surprise.  Then I started finding out more about genealogy, heredity and DNA testing.  I wouldn’t trade my Haplogroup E1b1a8a for any other.  This gives me a big advantage in trying to trace my ancestors and their ancient travels.  I know they were in Sub-Saharan Africa when this haplogroup was formed.  After that they went to Europe, very probably with some historic event.  They may have crossed the Alps with Hannibal Barca in 218 BCE; fought with Julius Caesar in his Gallic Wars; fought with Tiberius and Drusus in 14 BCE and conquered Raetia or invaded Rome from North Africa with the Vandals??

In 20 BCE Augustus created the Roman Provence of Raetia. The present Austrian State of Vorarlberg was a part of Raetia.

We have a paper trail traced back to the Montafon Valley, Vorarlberg, Austria where church records place them in the town of Schrunns 1477.  The European family has been proved by DNA testing to be the same as my American family.  The oldest spelling of the surname found is Gavanesche.  During the Seventeenth Century five of the Gavanesche Franz, Johann, Anton, Oskar and Peter served as priests or monks.  Historians of the Montafon Valley say Gavanesche is a Rheatoroman name and the Gavanesche were of “Roman Origin”. My ancestors very probably came to east central Europe during the Roman Period as mercenary soldiers. 

I did the deCODEme test and it was substantiated by the 23andME test, though I like the deCODEme, with the X-Chromosome, much better.

Autosomal Chromosomes Ancestry Total Results deCODEme;
European 91%
East Asian 6% (probably reflects proven Amerind from Eighteenth Century Virginia)
African 3% (probably Amerind and African mix from Eighteenth Century Virginia)

X-chromosome
European 84%
East Asian 9%
African 7%

So my Y-Chromosome is Sub-Saharan African and has nothing to do with whom I am racially or whatever you call it! You are the last six generations of your ancestors.

How about Pres. Obama’s little Irish friend from Harvard, Prof. Yates? 

I did WTY this Spring and now have five new SNPs L608, L609, L610, L611 and L613.

I love my genealogy and perhaps most of all, my Haplogroup E1b1a8a.   

Walt

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