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From: Bernard SECHER <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] King Tut's DNA
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:13:56 +0100 (CET)
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Dear Anatole,

If the R1b data support the path of R1b in North Africa, we must find R1b-L11 samples in North Africa. What are the scientific sudies which show such R1b-L11 presence in North Africa ?

Best regards
Bernard Secher

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> My opinion is as good as anybody else's provided that the anybody else is based his/her opinion on actual DATA, calculations, evidences.
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> Having said that, my DATA (thank you Mike personally for providing extensive R1b1a2 datasets) shows that the P312 and U106 67 marker base haplotypes differ by only six mutations. This is very little, and since both of them are "brother" subclades and both were derived from L11, it is clear that they are almost "twins". They could not travel separately from some place in Asia, they just did not have enough time for that. Those six mutations between P312 and U106 place THEIR common ancestor at 4800 ybp (Proceedings of RA-DNA, 2011 June, vol. 4, No. 6, p. 1133). It is too late for R1b to be in Asia that time. It is already Europe or entering it.  
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> So, I believe that ALL P312 and U106 derived of the North Africa - Iberia route, and probably at the very end of that route.   
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> Anatole Klyosov
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