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From: "Ian Logan" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] This week's new mtDNA sequences on GenBank (20-FEB-2012)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:27:48 -0000
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Hello Didier / list

Thank you - an interesting point.

I try to use the Haplogroup labels that are to be found on
the latest version of (December 2011).

and leave it to 'Mannis' to award a new label when he sees fit.
He usually wants to see 3 sequences before awarding
a new subgroup label.

The Italian sequence JQ655421 has the distinctive mutation A14750G
- but as yet this has not been given a subgroup label.

And as for the H31 sequence, look at:

where the new sequence is the 10th for H31
(there has been an effort by this subgroups members
to get their sequences on GenBank)
And, I think we can expect 'Mannis' to separate H31 on the
mutation T72G in due course.


Dear Ian,

I am following this list and your messages are welcome but may I suggest that it would be best if
you were clearly distinguishing those new entries adding nodes to the tree from others.

I am not a specialist of the mtDNA haplogroups but I decided recently to investigate more
thouroughly the H haplogroup for its importance among europeans. Let me take 2 examples :
I don't know what H31 is ; must be fairly new. When comparing the H case reported to this H31 I
noticed a number of differences (easy to see below) ; 6 of these differences are in the control
region. Would you be kind enough to explain in the case below why the italian guy is "only" H (and
not H32 for example) and why the Scottish guy is H31 , these "guys" might actually be ladies !

JQ655421(Italy) FTDNA Haplogroup H 20-FEB-2012
T152C C182T A263G 315.1C A750G A1438G A4769G A8860G A14750G A15326G T16519C

JQ664688(Scottish) FTDNA Haplogroup H31 20-FEB-2012
T72G T146C T195C A263G 315.1C A750G A1438G A4769G A7930T A8860G A10771G A15326G G16319A T16519C

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