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------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain GENIRE-D DigestVolume 97 : Issue 122 Today's Topics: #1 QUINN-Donegal [] #2 Re: Ship lists [ (Jcpoppop)] #3 Rusk, John R. ["billrusk" <>] #4 Leddin [ (Marian105)] #5 Re: McCaffrey and Rooney [Janice Walker <] #6 Irish place names request [ (Lynn Diana Ga] #7 Re: $1000/wk Donating Sperm [Charles Ellson <] #8 TIMMINS/ONS [ (Penny Lloyd)] #9 Re: Co. Galway- Griffith's Valuati [ (Thomas McDonoug] #10 Moffitt-Burns Marriage 1859 Belfas [Andrew Booth <.] #11 Reevy John/Robertson Helen; Newton [ (David Ravi] #12 Griffith's Valuation dates [ (mary stewart kyri] #13 Re: Balanew, Co. Mayo [ (mary stewart kyri] #14 Re: Nugent research in Ireland/Cou [ (MarieCSW)] #15 Tankardstown, County Limerick [ (KILAMONA2)] #16 Glashare, County Kilkenny [ (KILAMONA2)] #17 World Gen Web Temporary Address [ (Diana)] #18 Re: Tankardstown, County Limerick [ (Ed Murnane)] #19 Dublin Ireland ["noel o'hara" <>] #20 Dublin, ireland ["noel o'hara" <>] #21 Re: Irish Rebellion - 1798 [ (W. P. Creedon)] #22 Brown/Dromore/County Down? [ (Maridel Crawf] #23 dublin ireland ["noel o'hara" <>] #24 Nahill, anyone? [ (JRose10700)] #25 Info re Dug(g)ans and about Thurle [] #26 Re: Info re Dug(g)ans and about Th [ (Ed Murnane)] #27 Re: Moffitt-Burns Marriage 1859 Be [Elizabeth Russon <elizabeth.russon] #28 LYONS-MCDERMOTT [ (Mar] #29 Kavanaugh/Belfast/Waterford [] #30 Re: Info re Dug(g)ans and about Th [] Administrivia: This GENIRE digest has been distributed by RootsWeb. RootsWeb's home page is at http://www.rootsweb.com/. 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Can it be done on the web? ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #3 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 21:56:36 -0600 From: "billrusk" <> To: Message-ID: <63gtlu$ooo$1@excalibur.flash.net> Subject: Rusk, John R. I'm seeking information on John R. Rusk (b. abt. 1750), who came to the U. S. from around Ulster, Ireland and was the father of Thomas Jefferson Rusk who fought in the Battle of San Jacinto in Texas in 1836. Bill Rusk ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #4 Date: 2 Nov 1997 05:00:32 GMT From: (Marian105) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Leddin Am looking for any and all information regarding the Surname: LEDDIN. My Grandfather PATRICK JOSPEH LEDDIN b. 1892, immigrated to Chicago, IL USA in about 1914. His older brother, JOHN JOSEPH LEDDIN b.1889, had immigrated to Chicago about 1911. They were from the area of Ballycahill, Knocklong, Hospital, Limerick County, Ireland. Their parents were WILLIAM LEDDIN and his first wife, CATHARINE O'DOUGHERTY. It is my understanding that William and Catherine had 7 children; Hannah m. Mr. Mitchell John Joseph b.1889 immigrated to the US and m. Bridget J. Carroll Bridged Margaret m. Mr. Hogan Patrick Joseph b.1892 immigrated to the US and m. Marian Carroll Mary m. J. Duish (stayed in Ireland) Timothy d. 1967 (stayed in Ireland) William married his second wife, Hannah Irwin, and they also had seven children: Kathleen, went to the US married Mr. Vearney Nora, went to the US , married Mr. Danaher William, went to the US, and married Margaret O'Neill Ellen "Ellie" stayed in Ireland, married John Creed Agnes, stayed in Ireland, never married Edmond, stayed in Ireland, married Mary Barrow. Died in 1982. Lily, stayed in Ireland, married Mr. Dineen. (Believed to still be living in 1996) I am seeking any and all information on this family. My father was first generation American, born in Chicago. His mother, MARIAN CARROLL b.1896, was also an immigrant to the US from the area of Hospital, County Limrick. She arrived in the US in 1920. There is a belief that she fled Ireland because of the political unrest. She is believed to have been involved with the uprising in Southern Ireland. anything would be appreciated......please e-mail me at or at thanks ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #5 Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 22:36:23 -0800 From: Janice Walker <> To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: McCaffrey and Rooney Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wrote: > > I have MANY ROONEY and McCAFFREY passenger lists. Could you please send > given names? Thansk > > Do you have a Nancy McCaffrey who immigrated to PEI probably in the mid 1800's? She married a John Leard. Thanks. Lorna Tissington E-mail address ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #6 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 06:42:12 GMT From: (Lynn Diana Gazis) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Irish place names request I am researching MacGinities, and have the following note to go from: James McGinnity, came from Strenrar, County Armagh, in 1783 I haven't been able to find Strenrar on any maps. Can anyone tell me where it is, or anything more about it? (We think this is a place name.) Lynn Gazis-Sax ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #7 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 97 06:54:17 GMT From: Charles Ellson <> To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: $1000/wk Donating Sperm In article <> writes: > visit http://206.155.252.182/index.html for more detailed information on > how you can partake in the sperm donor program... > =<<><===<=>>=>>=<><= > All these spams (across many newsgroups) originate via Bellsouth and the URL advertised appears to be one of their users although the spam could also presumably be from a disgruntled customer of that user. Bellsouth does not give an address for abuse complaints so if bounces then try: If you complain to them, dont forget to forward a copy of the message (including header) complained about. -- _______ +---------------------------------------------------+ |\\ //| | Charles Ellson E-mail | | \\ // | +---------------------------------------------------+ | > < | | // \\ | Alba gu brath |//___\\| ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #8 Date: 1 Nov 1997 23:40:26 -0800 From: (Penny Lloyd) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: TIMMINS/ONS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Looking for searchers of the name TIMMINS/ONS - Ireland only - Counties CARLOW, WICKLOW and KILDARE ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #9 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 02:54:47 -0500 From: (Thomas McDonough) To: Message-ID: <63hbk7$qc1$1@newsd-122.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Co. Galway- Griffith's Valuation Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I don't know about the valuation, but at the next seance I attend I sure know whose spirit I'll be trying to contact. 60 children, you say? ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #10 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:47:42 +0000 From: Andrew Booth <> To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Moffitt-Burns Marriage 1859 Belfast My gg-grandparents were Thomas Moffitt (or Moffatt) and Mary Ann Burns. I found them and their 1-year old son in the 1861 census of Hulme in Manchester. Both Thomas and Mary Ann were shown to have been born in Ireland, but no place was given. Family legend is that they came from Belfast. I cannot find their marriage in the St Cath's Index, so they may have married in Ireland before coming over in about 1859. Although I have quite a bit of experience with the English records, I have never dealt with Irish ones. If anyone could suggest how I might go about finding the record of their marriage, I would be very grateful. I can carry out research in West Yorkshire in exchange. Andrew Booth Harrogate, UK ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #11 Date: 2 Nov 1997 04:01:28 -0800 From: (David Ravie) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Reevy John/Robertson Helen; Newtonards, Co. Down; c.1820 Hello all, I am looking for any information on the above couple, the spelling of Reevy could vary : Reavey, Reavie etc. Helen Robertson was born in 1798 in Newtonards, Co. Down. Her parents were John and Elizabeth Robertson, John and Helen had two sons, that I know of, born in Ireland : David Ravie b. c 1825 John Ravie b. c 1829 If anyone has any information on the any of the names above, or information on the Reevy name and it's derivatives I would appreciate hearing from them. Cheers, Dave. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ravie/surnames.htm Researching: Ravie/Revie, Bowie, Welsh, Wilson, Anderson, Rennie, Garvie, Conley, Robb, Park, Watt, Walker, Fraser, Reekie, Allan, Duncan, Mathisone, Stoddart. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #12 Date: 2 Nov 1997 04:52:16 -0800 From: (mary stewart kyritsis) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Griffith's Valuation dates Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello to all. I have the Griffith's "Valuation of the Union of Strabane (part of)", County Tyrone, here in front of me, and it is actually dated 22 November 1858. However, this date is specified "Dated at the General Valuation Office, Dublin, this 22nd day of November 1858" and I assume it means the day the whole valuation was submitted to the office, not the date the valuators actually were going around the parishes taking the valuations. As far as I can see there is no indication of that in the book. The part of Strabane that is covered in this book is: Ardstraw parish Camus Parish Donaghedy Parish Leckpatrick Parish Urney Parish Regards, Mary in Greece > >Ray, >As a matter of fact, that list is already done. :D > >Griffith's was actually taken in various counties as follows: > ><snip> >Tyrone 1860 ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #13 Date: 2 Nov 1997 04:52:26 -0800 From: (mary stewart kyritsis) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: Balanew, Co. Mayo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >From: Bill Shields <> > >I've checked a number of maps and have been unable to locate >"Balanew". > If you get as far as Balli- you must always check the Bally- names! According to the Index of Townlands and Towns of Ireland, there appear to be three separate Ballynew townlands in Co. Mayo, two of them in the Poor Law Union of 1857 for Claremorris. One is in Kilcolman Parish, 119.0.16 acres, and the other in Tagheen Parish, 174.1.35 acres, both in the Barony of Clanmorris. The third one, in the Poor Law Union of Castlebar, is 98.2.29 acres and is in Aglish Parish, Barony of Carra, and you can probably eliminate it. In my (not very good) genealogical atlas of Ireland, both these parishes (Kilcolman and Taghkeen) appear to be west-southwest of the town of Castlebar, near the tiny village of Mayo, on the way to the town of Clanmorris. It is possible that Ballynew is one of those townlands which actually lies in two separate parishes. Regards, Mary in Greece ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #14 Date: 2 Nov 1997 05:47:19 -0800 From: (MarieCSW) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: Nugent research in Ireland/County Cork or Kerry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, My name is Charlotte Rigg Nugent. I am researching my line in America and England/Townley Rigg, b. 1750, also John Patrick Nugent, b. March of 1871. He emmigrated to America in 1891, landing in New York City on May 18, 1891. He went to Bayonne, New Jersey where he worked as a laborer, saloonkeeper, in real estate. His son, John Patrick Nugent Jr. was a lawyer who had a legal firm in Jersey City, NJ. J.P. Nugent, Jr., son was my husband, John Drewen Nugent. My children are especially interested in their Irish roots. I am attempting to establish the ancestral village. My mother in law visited it in 1948 with JPJr., but only remembers it was called "Castle Isle". In Kerry there is "Castle Island" but my Irish friend at work, Sheila Sullivan, says that Castle Island is never called "Castle Isle"! My sister in law, Nelle Nugent, remembers Bantry Bay and Bantry Bay Electric, as a place name and company that she seems to remember many in the family worked there. Also, John Patrick had a cousin called Dr. Ethel Nugent who was in the Wicklows, working at a university perhaps? She ended up at a University in the Mid- west, in America, St. Stephens College in Missouri, for a time. Can anybody help me with this research? John Patrick Nugent Sr, left Ireland in 1891 on the "Aurania" a ship out of Liverpool which also picked up passengers in Queenstown (Cobb), Ireland. Does anyone know what Castle Isle means? Does it mean "Castle Island"? Is anyone researching Nugents that you know of? What is the best next step for me? Thank you so much, Charlotte Rigg Nugent or ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #15 Date: 2 Nov 1997 13:52:25 GMT From: (KILAMONA2) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Tankardstown, County Limerick Is anyone researching in Tankardstown, County Limerick? ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #16 Date: 2 Nov 1997 13:51:30 GMT From: (KILAMONA2) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Glashare, County Kilkenny Found in Griffiths a burial ground right near my ancestor's home. Who would I contact to find out about cemetery inscriptions here? Thank you for any assistance you can give me. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #17 Date: 2 Nov 1997 05:59:54 -0800 From: (Diana) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: World Gen Web Temporary Address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The new address for the World Gen Web Project (or at least the current one) is http://www.rootsweb.com/~iadecatu/world.htm Be aware this is just temporary until I get space on rootsweb under our own directory. Thanks for asking! -- Diana Hanson :) Accredited Genealogist Ireland Gen Web Host Host of the World Gen Web Project Muscatine, Decatur, Tama, and Blackhawk County Iowa Gen Web Host ********************************************** What good is magic if it can't save a unicorn? ********************************************** http://www.ideaschool.org/courses/general/gen208.htm Free OnLine Genealogy Class for Ireland Research ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #18 Date: 2 Nov 1997 06:52:10 -0800 From: (Ed Murnane) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: Tankardstown, County Limerick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit KILAMONA2 wrote: > > Is anyone researching in Tankardstown, County Limerick?I know of a Tankerstown in County Tipperary, a townland between Tipperary Town and Cahir on the Limerick-Waterford Road. Ed Murnane Murnanes of Tipperary http://www.murnane.org ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #19 Date: 2 Nov 1997 14:57:14 GMT From: "noel o'hara" <> To: Message-ID: <01bce795$225265e0$> Subject: Dublin Ireland Are your Ancestors from Dublin, Ireland? Visit http://indigo.ie/~nohara to view some photographs from the city of Dublin. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #20 Date: 2 Nov 1997 15:08:04 GMT From: "noel o'hara" <> To: Message-ID: <01bce7a0$d3bb91c0$> Subject: Dublin, ireland Are your Ancestors from Dublin, Ireland? Visit http://indigo.ie/~nohara to view some photographs from the city of Dublin. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #21 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 16:05:33 GMT From: (W. P. Creedon) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: Irish Rebellion - 1798 On 30 Oct 1997 07:06:04 -0800, (Patti Raatz) wrote: >I thought some of you might be interested in a book I read about the >1798 Irish Rebellion. It is a novel very deeply based on fact >regarding the rebellion against England. > >The IRISH ECHO stated about this book: SONS OF THUNDER is a moving >acocunt of the 1798 rebellion which catches all the drama that this >major upheaval created in Ireland. The author has a feel for the >Irish characters...It is an excellent novel and deserves to be widely >read. > >If you would like to know more about this book and how to purchase a >copy, please e-mail me privately. It is a very good book. > >I would also like to apologize for going off topic, but I strongly >believe that this is a book many of you would enjoy. > >Have a good day. > >Patti And for historical background as well as details of how the bi-centenery will be commemorated look at Comoradh 98 or 98 Commemoration page at www.wexford.ie/comoradh/1798.htm Liam. (End of Message) W. P. Creedon<> ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #22 Date: 2 Nov 1997 07:12:26 -0800 From: (Maridel Crawford-Brown) To: Message-ID: <v01510103b0823b9bbb20@[139.142.41.34]> Subject: Brown/Dromore/County Down? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello all; I am new to this list. I wonder if anyone has cemetery transcriptions for Dromore, County Down? I have a Thomas Brown born in 1807 (place unknown) dies 14 April 1892 in Carleton County, Ontario. He married Rachel McCracken 24 May 1830 in Parish of Dromore (IGI/LDS records). Just starting up on these again. Regards Maridel Crawford-Brown ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #23 Date: 2 Nov 1997 15:13:24 GMT From: "noel o'hara" <> To: Message-ID: <01bce7a1$94fd2420$> Subject: dublin ireland Are your Ancestors from Dublin, Ireland? Visit http://indigo.ie/~nohara to view some photographs from the city of Dublin. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #24 Date: 2 Nov 1997 08:41:11 -0800 From: (JRose10700) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Nahill, anyone? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is anyone doing any rssearch on the name Nahill? I know it is a variation of the O'Neill family, and there are several Nahills who made their home in County Clare. My great-grandmother was named Mary Nahill. She married my great-grandfather, Patrick O'Brien, but I do not know whether it was before or after they left County 'Clare during the famine days. In the mid-Nineteenth Century they settled along the Pennsylvania-New York border where they had my grandfather, Daniel, and at least one other child. I have been told that she is buried in titusville, Pa., but was unable to locate her grave. Any other Nahills out t here? love joan, H.A.* *Honorable Ancest or, since I now are one ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #25 Date: 2 Nov 1997 09:56:28 -0800 From: To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Info re Dug(g)ans and about Thurles, Tipperary I am trying to trace my great grandfather, Robert Dug(g)an, 1843? to 1918. He emigrated to the San Francisco Bay Area in the mid-1860's (census records indicate various dates) and settled in Berkeley. His parents were named John and Ellen Dug(g)an. He married Mary Ann O'Leary in about 1870, and the couple had at least six children: John, Nicholas, Edward, Phillip (my grandfather 1886-1970), Ellen, and another daughter who died shortly after birth. An uncle says he came from Thurles in County Tipperary. The only Thurles I can find is a parish in the diocese of Cashel and Emly. My sister and I have been planning a trip to Ireland next year, and are getting desperate to track down where Robert came from. I hired someone to locate a baptismal record, but have had no response in over three months. Any information about either "Thurles" or Duggans from Tipperary, or tips for research, would be greatly appreciated. Stephen Duggan, Novato, California. RESEARCHING DUGGAN, KILTY, CONSIDINE, MCGRATH, O'LEARY, SULLIVAN, CASHMAN, CONOR, KELLY, HOGAN, COUGHLAN, CURTIN/CURTAIN. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #26 Date: 2 Nov 1997 10:32:06 -0800 From: (Ed Murnane) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: Info re Dug(g)ans and about Thurles, Tipperary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wrote: > > I am trying to trace my great grandfather, Robert Dug(g)an, 1843? to 1918. > He emigrated to the San Francisco Bay Area in the mid-1860's (census records > indicate various dates) and settled in Berkeley. His parents were named John > and Ellen Dug(g)an. He married Mary Ann O'Leary in about 1870, and the > couple had at least six children: John, Nicholas, Edward, Phillip (my > grandfather 1886-1970), Ellen, and another daughter who died shortly after > birth. An uncle says he came from Thurles in County Tipperary. The only > Thurles I can find is a parish in the diocese of Cashel and Emly. My sister > and I have been planning a trip to Ireland next year, and are getting > desperate to track down where Robert came from. I hired someone to locate a > baptismal record, but have had no response in over three months. > > Any information about either "Thurles" or Duggans from Tipperary, or tips for > research, would be greatly appreciated. Stephen Duggan, Novato, California. > > RESEARCHING DUGGAN, KILTY, CONSIDINE, MCGRATH, O'LEARY, SULLIVAN, CASHMAN, > CONOR, KELLY, HOGAN, COUGHLAN, CURTIN/CURTAIN. Thurles is a fairly major city (major by Irish standards) in County Tipperary. It is the home of the Tipperary Libraries, which also is the home of the County Tipperary Historical Society, which has a website and a mail box. You can link to both from my website. Ed Murnane Murnanes of Tipperary http://www.murnane.org ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #27 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 13:36:04 -0500 From: Elizabeth Russon <> To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: Moffitt-Burns Marriage 1859 Belfast Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew Booth wrote: > > My gg-grandparents were Thomas Moffitt (or Moffatt) and Mary Ann Burns. > I found them and their 1-year old son in the 1861 census of Hulme in > Manchester. Both Thomas and Mary Ann were shown to have been born in > Ireland, but no place was given. Family legend is that they came from > Belfast. I cannot find their marriage in the St Cath's Index, so they > may have married in Ireland before coming over in about 1859. > > Although I have quite a bit of experience with the English records, I > have never dealt with Irish ones. If anyone could suggest how I might > go about finding the record of their marriage, I would be very grateful. > > I can carry out research in West Yorkshire in exchange. > > Andrew Booth > Harrogate, UK I don't know anything definitely but my great-great grandmother was Ann Burns and I was lucky that she had a daughter in 1855 in Glasgow, which is the best year as far as information on birth certificates. She put down that she came from Downpatrick, County Down which is just outside Belfast. It may be no relation, then again check out the location. I wish I needed a look-up in West Yorkshire but I've tracked all my husband's family there to elsewhere. Good luck. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #28 Date: 2 Nov 1997 11:12:11 -0800 From: (Mary Dobrovolny) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: LYONS-MCDERMOTT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am interested in finding more information about Mary Lyons who married Stephen McDermott on August 8, 1844 in Albany, New York. Any information will be appreciated. Thanks () ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #29 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 13:11:26 -0600 From: To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Kavanaugh/Belfast/Waterford Trying to find birth of one Simon Kavanaugh, who immigrated to Nova Scotia around 1810. He was born 1789/1790/1791 around Belfast or Waterford. He named his first son Abram, the name did not come from his wife's side, so I am hoping this is a lead to his father's name. If you have any information on Kavanaugh/Cavanah (or variants) this time frame and area, please contact. Thank you, Holly -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #30 Date: 2 Nov 1997 11:17:08 -0800 From: To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: Info re Dug(g)ans and about Thurles, Tipperary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wrote: > > I am trying to trace my great grandfather, Robert Dug(g)an, 1843? to 1918. > He emigrated to the San Francisco Bay Area in the mid-1860's (census records > indicate various dates) and settled in Berkeley. His parents were named John > and Ellen Dug(g)an. He married Mary Ann O'Leary in about 1870, and the > couple had at least six children: John, Nicholas, Edward, Phillip (my > grandfather 1886-1970), Ellen, and another daughter who died shortly after > birth. An uncle says he came from Thurles in County Tipperary. The only > Thurles I can find is a parish in the diocese of Cashel and Emly. My sister > and I have been planning a trip to Ireland next year, and are getting > desperate to track down where Robert came from. Hi, In the copy of Illustrated Ireland Guide published by Bord Failte, 1972 edition, it had quite a lot to say about Thurles. Here is a little bit of what was said.............. Thurles - Strong Fort of Ely (Durlus eile) County Tipperaru Pop. 6,421; 92 miles to Dublin, 25 miles to Tipperary; 13 miles to Cashel, 9 miles to Templemore A bright well-laid-out town built across the River Suir,near the northern end of the plain of Tipperary and on the main Dublin-Cork railway, Thurles is a marketing and distributing centre for one of Ireland's great agricultural areas. Its large sugar-beet factory employs many workers from the town and neighourhood. Thurles is also the cathderal town of the archdiocese of Cashel and Emly. Named from the fortress of the O'Fogartys which stood here in ancient times, Thurles receives little notice in historical records until 1174 A.D., when Strongbow's Angol-Norman army, aided by reinforcements from the invaders Dublin colony, was heavily defeated here by the combined forces of Roderick O'Connor and Donal O'Brien. Later, the Anglo-Normans established themselves in the distric and erected a castel at Thurles to command th crossing of the Suire. The Carmelite priory founded here by the Butlers in 1300 was suppressed in 1540 and granted to James Butler, earl of Ormonde. If you get a the Michelin map of Ireland, Thurles is listed. Good luck on your research. Slan, Margaret (Mairead)