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GENIRE-D DigestVolume 97 : Issue 127
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Shields/Waterson []
#2 William MYERS IRE/AUST []
#3 Patrick MYERS, Co. Cork, Ireland []
#4 Re: using maiden name-security [ (Hugh McCallum)]
#5 Re: Sullivan and Hurlihy Research [ (Gramp6)]
#6 Re: Johnston - Co. Fermanagh [ ( )]
#7 Re: where is the web site [ (merv rossiter]
#8 Kinsella / Kilkenny-Waterford ["Doug Kinsella" <.]
#9 Re: Inchigeelagh Parish-Cork-Mary [ (Gary Coughl]
#10 Need Ireland Address [ (Monica ]
#11 The Name "Ferry" in Co. Donegal [john maxwell <>]
#12 Re: HANRAHAN: County Clare Assista [ ( )]
#13 Re: Dublin Directories [ ( )]
#14 Re: SULLIVAN, Daniel;1800/40 [ ( )]
#15 Re: The Cashel Family of Co. Tippe [ ( )]
#16 Re: Torsney family;Co Sligo [ ( )]
#17 millions of sunames online []
#18 Re: Kinsella / Kilkenny-Waterford [ ( )]
#19 Re: McCutcheon/Tyrone [ ( )]
#20 Re: Inchigeelagh Parish-Cork-Mary [ ( )]
#21 KILCOLLINS [ (MarkPetri]
#22 Surname Mailing Lists [ (Pat Trecker)]
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Date: 4 Nov 1997 17:29:19 -0800
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Subject: Re: Shields/Waterson
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Audrey,
Just notice your email address "not a real one". So posting this here.
In said you thought your relatives were from County Down. I have a
partial list of Griffiths Valuation for County Down, Barony of Iveagh
Upper, Upper Half, Union of Newry.
In the parish of Clonduff, and townland of Islandmoyle there is a Patrick
Shiel. According to MacLysaght Shields and Shiel are one in the same.
In the parish of Drumgath, the townland of Drumlough found:
Joseph Rush
In Parish of Warrenpoint, town of Warrenpoint found:
William Shiels
In parish of Clonduff, townland of Ballynagappoge found:
James Waterson
John Waterson
In Hilltown found:
Possibly your Great Great Grandfather? Henry Waterson
John Waterson
Don't know if there are others with same name in other areas of County
Down, I just have the Griffith Valuation for this particular area.
The Griffith Valuation is a record of all those who was a tenant or a
lessor of land in the mid 19th century. It lists the head of the
household.
Good luck,
Margaret (Mairead)
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Date: 4 Nov 1997 17:51:57 -0800
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Subject: William MYERS IRE/AUST
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Seeking information on William MYERS born 1862, Ballyvoddy Townland
(Rockmills), Kildorrery, Co. Cork, Ireland to Patrick Myers and
Catherine Sullivan. Two brothers, my gf who emigrated to Brooklyn, NY,
and John (no information). William was in Cloncurry, Queensland,
Australia, at least from 1917-1924, according to Electoral Rolls. What
happened to him???????
John Myers
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X-Message: #3
Date: 4 Nov 1997 18:06:25 -0800
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Subject: Patrick MYERS, Co. Cork, Ireland
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Seeking information on Patrick MYERS who married Catherine SULLIVAN in
February 1857 in Kildorrery, Co. Cork. Myers was from Scart Townland
and Sullivan from Ahacross Townland. Son John was born in February 1857
in Meadstown Townland, Patrick in Scart Townland in 1859, and William in
Ballyvoddy Townland in 1862. All Townlands are in Kildorrery RC
Parish. Young Patrick emigrated to US and was my grandfather. I have
NO information on John except for his birth. William emigrated at some
point to Australia and was in Cloncurry, Q'ld at least from 1917-1924.
I have no information on the elder Patrick. I assume he died pre 1
January 1864 as there is no death record. I also assume he died post
October 1861 because William was born 20 July 1862 requiring Patrick to
be there at least nine months, or thereabouts, earlier. Griffith's
Valuations list her in Rockmills, Ballyvoddy Townland in 1884 and
describes her as a widow.
Anybody out there with information on anything written above?
John MYERS
Arizona
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X-Message: #4
Date: 4 Nov 1997 18:55:50 -0800
From: (Hugh McCallum)
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Subject: Re: using maiden name-security
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Pat wheeler wrote:
> Just a note --our banks used to use mothers maiden name as security in
the
> old days of no technology and web sites. However I once asked the banker
> about this method of security "What do you do if the clients doesn;t
know
> his mothers maiden name?" Oh we just make something up! was his reply.
> I can not recall being asked this in at least the last 10 years in a Cdn
bank
> so I think it has found its slow demise as a security measure in todays
> world of instant replay.
>
I use my mothers maiden name BOYCE converted to the number 2035 to lock up
my bike. There now everyone knows, but I'm not changing it! :-))
Hugh
Researching:Biggart, Boyce, Boyd, Cornelius, Dennovy, Eaglesham,
Hose, Kelly, Lockhart, McCallum, McCracken, McGregg, Ryans.
(Scotland & Ireland)
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X-Message: #5
Date: 5 Nov 1997 03:41:03 GMT
From: (Gramp6)
To:
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Subject: Re: Sullivan and Hurlihy Research
Hi,
I have been searching for information on a James Howey that was supposed to
have been born in County Cork, Ireland on 8 March 1828. His father's name was
Samuel Howey. What is the best way for me to go about finding out more
information on these Howeys?
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X-Message: #6
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 05:20:29 GMT
From: ( )
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Subject: Re: Johnston - Co. Fermanagh
Wsjersey () wrote:
: I recently found a reference that leads me to believe that my Johnston
: line came from Mountain Top, Ederny, Fermangh. Can anyone tell me what
: regestration district it is in and where I might find chruch records for
See:http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/FnghTyrn.htm
Fermanagh Family Heritage Centre computerizing parish records
Provides search service for a fee
http://www.bess.tcd.ie/roots/prototyp/fermanag.html
Fermanagh sources for genealogy
These, and other useful links, can be reached from the TIARA web site.
_______________________________________________________________________
Dennis Ahern | The Irish Ancestral Research Association
Acton, Massachusetts | Dept. W, P.O. Box 619, Sudbury, MA 01776
| http://world.std.com/~ahern/TIARA.html
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X-Message: #7
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 08:01:52 GMT
From: (merv rossiter)
To:
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Subject: Re: where is the web site
On 4 Nov 1997 05:13:17 -0800, wrote:
>saw in your post that you refered to a web site that had Irish family mottos?
>would like to find it
>My grandfather Rogers. had one tha I don't know if it was a family one or not
>. but I have always liked it so I am passing it a long
>If you look for the Good in People you will find it. If you look for the bad
>you will find it too. because their is a little good in the worst of people
>and a little bad in the best.
>
>I don't know if the workds exact but that is the way I remember it. I have
>tried to teach it to my children.
>
>sorry got a little off subject: WEB address please
>Patti Moore Lininger
Hi Patti
The site for the Irish Family Mottos is at
htp://www.winshop.com.au/merv/
If you cannot find what you are looking for please email me
God Bless You
Merv Rossiter
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/
Researching the Rossiter family name world wide
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X-Message: #8
Date: 5 Nov 1997 11:27:15 GMT
From: "Doug Kinsella" <>
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Subject: Kinsella / Kilkenny-Waterford
Can anyone help please. Looking for ancestors and relatives of Thomas
Kinsella and Bridget Geever from some where near Waterford in Ireland.
They were married in America just before the turn of the century. They
returned to Waterford or therebouts soon after. I believe that Bridget came
from Co. Mayo.
Any help greatley appreciated.
Sue Kinsella
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X-Message: #9
Date: 5 Nov 1997 07:28:39 -0800
From: (Gary Coughlin)
To:
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Subject: Re: Inchigeelagh Parish-Cork-Mary Mahoney
> From: Gary Coughlin <>
> To:
> Subject: Inchigeelagh Parish-Cork-Mary Mahoney
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 97 11:09:27 EST
>
>
> Hello
>
> Does anyone have the address of Inchigeelagh Parish in Cork. I have Mary
> Mahoney b. 27 February, 1822
> sister: Narry Mahoney b. June 29, 1820
> brother: Patrick Mahoney b. April 10, 1825
> Mother: Margaret McCarthy
> Father: Florence Mahoney
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary
>
>
> "It must stand the test of time"
>
> Searching:
>
> Coughlin O'Shaughnessey Guthrie Mills
>
> Harrington Fennell Doherty Mahoney
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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X-Message: #10
Date: 5 Nov 1997 07:56:19 -0800
From: (Monica Dwyer Abress)
To:
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Subject: Need Ireland Address
I am looking for an address for St. Mary's Church in Dungarvan, Co. Waterford.
I have relatives who were baptised and married there and would like to get
records. Is this church still there? If so, can someone give me an address
to write to? Thanks.
--Monica
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X-Message: #11
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 11:02:05 -0500
From: john maxwell <>
To:
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Subject: The Name "Ferry" in Co. Donegal
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Hello. I'm curious to find the origins of the name "Ferry" in
co. Donegal. I already know my relatives in the area, but I'm not sure
that they are aware of the ultimate origins of the name themselves. I
have heard that the name originates in North Fanad, but alternative
suggestions I've heard, are in the Gweedore area. Few of those "Irish
Family Names" books even list the name. I'm wondering if anyone could
shed some light on this matter.
John
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X-Message: #12
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:26:51 GMT
From: ( )
To:
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Subject: Re: HANRAHAN: County Clare Assistance
Mark Hanrahan () wrote:
: I'm trying to find information on the HANRAHAN family of County Clare. My Great
: Grandfather, John James HANRAHAN (born around 1856), came to Sydney (Australia)
: from County Clare somewhere between 1870 and 1891. His Australian marriage
See:http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/Clare.htm
Co. Clare Family Heritage Centre computerizing parish records
Provides search service for a fee
http://www.bess.tcd.ie/roots/prototyp/clare.html
Co. Clare sources for genealogy
http://www.teltec.ie/~library/map/clare.html
Public Libraries in Co. Clare
http://www.users.on.net/proformat/auspass.html
Australian and New Zealand Passenger Lists
http://www.kst.dit.ie/nat-arch/index.html
Convicts transported from Ireland to Australia
These, and other useful links, can be reached from the TIARA web site.
_______________________________________________________________________
Dennis Ahern | The Irish Ancestral Research Association
Acton, Massachusetts | Dept. W, P.O. Box 619, Sudbury, MA 01776
| http://world.std.com/~ahern/TIARA.html
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X-Message: #13
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:32:07 GMT
From: ( )
To:
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Subject: Re: Dublin Directories
Kerrie Rafter () wrote:
: Does anyone know where I would find copies of Dublin directories for 1743-1789
: and the Dublin Journal or Freeman's Journal for 1789.
See:http://www.nross.com/newsiri1.htm
Norman Ross Publishing Inc. for 18th and 19th century
Irish newspapers on microfilm from the British Library
http://booleweb.ucc.ie/coop/rsf-news.html
Newspaper holdings at University College Cork
http://www.mun.ca/library/colldev/irish.html
Irish Newspapers and Journals at Memorial University of Newfoundland
http://ireland.iol.ie/resource/dubcitylib
Dublin City Public Library
These, and other useful links, can be reached from the TIARA web site.
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Dennis Ahern | The Irish Ancestral Research Association
Acton, Massachusetts | Dept. W, P.O. Box 619, Sudbury, MA 01776
| http://world.std.com/~ahern/TIARA.html
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X-Message: #14
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:30:07 GMT
From: ( )
To:
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Subject: Re: SULLIVAN, Daniel;1800/40
Ted Bee () wrote:
: My gr.-gr. grandfather, Daniel Sullivan was a school teacher in County
: Cork, Ireland. He was born there about 1800 and died in Ireland before
: 1840 as his wife Ellen (Hurlihey) Sullivan migrated to Bangor, Maine with
See:http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/Cork.htm
Cork Family Heritage Centres computerizing parish records
Provides search service for a fee
http://www.bess.tcd.ie/roots/prototyp/cork.html
Cork sources for genealogy
http://world.std.com/~ahern/cork.html
Local historical societies in County Cork
http://snowball.ucd.ie/~library/map/cork.html
Local public Libraries in County Cork
http://homepages.iol.ie/~irishrts/CorkNames.html
County Cork Surnames
http://www.ni.net/~jons/osullivan/
O'Sullivan Beare
These, and other useful links, can be reached from the TIARA web site.
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Dennis Ahern | The Irish Ancestral Research Association
Acton, Massachusetts | Dept. W, P.O. Box 619, Sudbury, MA 01776
| http://world.std.com/~ahern/TIARA.html
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X-Message: #15
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:33:17 GMT
From: ( )
To:
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Subject: Re: The Cashel Family of Co. Tipperary
wrote:
: I am researching my G-Grandmother's family named Cashel. In the famine
: times Henry G. Cashel and his wife Christiana (nee Harding) moved to
: Kennington, London, England. It is thought that they may have lived in
: Bushfield House near Ballina, Co. Tipperary. In March 1866 my GG-Father
See:http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/STipp.htm Tipperary (South)
http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/NTipp.htm Tipperary (North)
Family Heritage Centre computerizing parish records
Provides search service for a fee
http://www.iol.ie/~tipplibs/Welcome.htm
County Tipperary Historical Society
http://www.bess.tcd.ie/roots/prototyp/tipper.html
Tipperary sources for genealogy
These, and other useful links, can be reached from the TIARA web site.
_______________________________________________________________________
Dennis Ahern | The Irish Ancestral Research Association
Acton, Massachusetts | Dept. W, P.O. Box 619, Sudbury, MA 01776
| http://world.std.com/~ahern/TIARA.html
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X-Message: #16
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:35:52 GMT
From: ( )
To:
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Subject: Re: Torsney family;Co Sligo
david torsney () wrote:
: I have an ancestor called John Torsney who married Bridget Kellechan in Co
: Sligo
See:http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/Sligo.htm
Sligo Family Heritage Centre computerizing parish records
Provides search service for a fee
http://www.bess.tcd.ie/roots/prototyp/sligo.html
Sligo sources for genealogy
These, and other useful links, can be reached from the TIARA web site.
_______________________________________________________________________
Dennis Ahern | The Irish Ancestral Research Association
Acton, Massachusetts | Dept. W, P.O. Box 619, Sudbury, MA 01776
| http://world.std.com/~ahern/TIARA.html
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X-Message: #17
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 11:40:57 -0600
From:
To:
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Subject: millions of sunames online
there are literally millions of surnames online that you can search
through for your ancestors, via my homepage at
http://members.tripod.com/~surnames
where you will find over 900 links to online surname searchable databases
from Europe, Uk, Ireland, United States, and New Zealand.
These surname listings include ships passenger lists, cemetery records,
newspaper births, deaths and marriage entries, government censuses as well
as many privately maintained (one containing over 130 million names)
databases
Good luck in your research,,
Ian
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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X-Message: #18
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:42:27 GMT
From: ( )
To:
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Subject: Re: Kinsella / Kilkenny-Waterford
Doug Kinsella () wrote:
: Can anyone help please. Looking for ancestors and relatives of Thomas
: Kinsella and Bridget Geever from some where near Waterford in Ireland.
See:http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/Waterfrd.htm
Waterford Family Heritage Centre computerizing parish records
Provides search service for a fee
http://www.bess.tcd.ie/roots/prototyp/waterfd.html
Waterford sources for genealogy
http://home.eznet.net/~kinsella/kinsella.htm
The Kinsella Family
These, and other useful links, can be reached from the TIARA web site.
_______________________________________________________________________
Dennis Ahern | The Irish Ancestral Research Association
Acton, Massachusetts | Dept. W, P.O. Box 619, Sudbury, MA 01776
| http://world.std.com/~ahern/TIARA.html
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X-Message: #19
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:28:09 GMT
From: ( )
To:
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Subject: Re: McCutcheon/Tyrone
Fred C McCutcheon () wrote:
: My name is Fred C McCutcheon, 219 Blossom Lane Sewickley, PA. 15143.
: My McCutcheon line starts with Claudius b c 1800, native of Tyrone, d
: Nov 16, 1852,(where unknown), age 52, buried in Pittsburgh, PA. wife
: Elenor (nee ?) b c 1794, native of Tyrone d Feb 9, 1877, age 83, and
See:http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/FnghTyrn.htm
Tyrone Family Heritage Centre computerizing parish records
Provides search service for a fee
http://pw2.netcom.com/~vanessa1/tyrone.html
County Tyrone Surname List
http://pw2.netcom.com/~vanessa1/towns.html
County Tyrone Towns and Parishes
http://www.bess.tcd.ie/roots/prototyp/tyrone.html
Tyrone sources for genealogy
These, and other useful links, can be reached from the TIARA web site.
_______________________________________________________________________
Dennis Ahern | The Irish Ancestral Research Association
Acton, Massachusetts | Dept. W, P.O. Box 619, Sudbury, MA 01776
| http://world.std.com/~ahern/TIARA.html
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X-Message: #20
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:44:43 GMT
From: ( )
To:
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Subject: Re: Inchigeelagh Parish-Cork-Mary Mahoney
Gary Coughlin () wrote:
: > Does anyone have the address of Inchigeelagh Parish in Cork. I have Mary
: > Mahoney b. 27 February, 1822
See:http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/Cork.htm
Cork Family Heritage Centres computerizing parish records
Provides search service for a fee
http://www.bess.tcd.ie/roots/prototyp/cork.html
Cork sources for genealogy
http://world.std.com/~ahern/cork.html
Local historical societies in County Cork
http://snowball.ucd.ie/~library/map/cork.html
Local public Libraries in County Cork
http://homepages.iol.ie/~irishrts/CorkNames.html
County Cork Surnames
http://cat.spindata.com/mahony/
The O'Mahony Society
These, and other useful links, can be reached from the TIARA web site.
_______________________________________________________________________
Dennis Ahern | The Irish Ancestral Research Association
Acton, Massachusetts | Dept. W, P.O. Box 619, Sudbury, MA 01776
| http://world.std.com/~ahern/TIARA.html
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X-Message: #21
Date: 5 Nov 1997 11:01:55 -0800
From: (MarkPetrie)
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Subject: KILCOLLINS
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Hi there;
I'm researching my ancestors, KILCOLLINS. They lived in New
Brunswick, Canada in the 1700's. Prior to this they came from
IRELAND, but the name does not exist in any IRISH name book and I
can't find them listed on any ships lists. Was it common to change
names upon arriving in Nth America? If so, then the name could have
actually been COLLINS with the prefix KIL added.
Any help will be appreciated,
Regards;
Mark & Deborah Petrie
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X-Message: #22
Date: 5 Nov 1997 12:37:48 -0800
From: (Pat Trecker)
To:
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Subject: Surname Mailing Lists
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Is there a general index to what surnames have their own mailing list?
Pat Trecker
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