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GENIRE-D DigestVolume 97 : Issue 129

Today's Topics:
#1 Diocese of Cashel And Emly, Co.Tip [ (Gorman, Tim)]
#2 Ballyloughloe Parish - Where is it []
#3 Tracing O'Rourke/Webb/Motherway/Co []
#4 Re: Ship List Anglia IRL-Boston [ ( )]
#5 Re: Is Molohon Irish? [ (Pat Traynor)]
#6 Re: McGlynn Coat of Arms [ (Pat Traynor)]
#7 KILCOLLINS [ (MarkPetri]
#8 Re: GENIRE-D Digest V97 #128 []
#9 CONNOLLY-RIORDAN, Glin, Limerick, [ (JIMC75)]
#10 MILLS James;KY,USA;1800-1900 [Bonnie Herrera <>]
#11 Re: Location of Certificates For T ["Patrick Hogan " <>]
#12 inherent instinct ? []
#13 Clonmel the family English ["yanina brown" <.]
#14 Re: inherent instinct - Bagpipes []
#15 [Fwd: Re: Clonmel the family Engli [ (Ed Murnane)]
#16 confusing death notation []
#17 Re: GENIRE-D Digest V97 #128 [ (William H Grim]
#18 Cunningham Hugh and Nancy (ann) ["Nancy Adams" <]
#19 Re: inherent instinct - Bagpipes/S [ (William H Grim]
#20 My Home Page [ (Margaret Groga]
#21 Re: The one thing worse than Spam []
#22 Are there ANY Irish WALTERS? [Bill Walters <]
#23 Re: Ballyloughloe Parish - Where i [William Jervois <]

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X-Message: #1
Date: 6 Nov 1997 07:25:38 -0800
From: (Gorman, Tim)
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Subject: Diocese of Cashel And Emly, Co.Tipperary
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I promised that I would post the locations of various church records for
the Diocese of Cashel and Emly in Co. Tipperary. As mentioned before,
The Diocese of Cashel and Emly constitutes the greater portion of County
Tipperary and part of County Limerick. The records for this Diocese have
been closed by the archbishop and may only be accessed from specific
locations. The following is a list of who has what baptisms and marriage
records, based on the parish (R.C., not civil). Most registers begin
around 1800, but is different for each parish. Contact the sources below
to find out what dates are covered. The only records for the area not
included in the list are cemetary inscriptions, many of which have been
documented by the Bru Boru in Cashel.

I hope this information helps some of you.

Tim Gorman


Locations Key:
A. Tipperary Heritage Unit, Marian Hall, St. Michael St., Tipperary.
Contact Ann Moloney, ph. 062-52725.
B. Mid-West Archives, The Granary, Michael St., Limerick. Contact Dr.
Chris O'Mahoney, ph. 061-40777.
C. Nenagh District Heritage Society, Governor's House, Nenagh. Contact
Nancy Murphy, ph. 067-32633.
D. Parish Records, Ursuline Convent, Thurles. Contact Tom Noone ph.
0504-23365 or -22673.

ParishLocation

Anacarty & DonohillA
Ballina & BoherA
Ballinahinch & KilloscullyA, B
BallingarryA
Ballybricken & BohermoreA, B
BallylandersA, B
Bansha & KilmoylerA
Boherlahan & DuallaA
Borrisoleigh & IleighA
Caherconlish & CaherlineA, B
CappamoreA, B
CappawhiteA
Cashel & RosegreenA
ClerihanA
Clonoulty & RossmoreA
Drangan & CloneenA
DoonA, B
Drom & InchA
EmlyA, B
Fethard & KilustyA
Galbally & AherlowA, B
Golden & KilfeacleA
Gortnahoe & GlengooleA
Holycross & BallycahillA
Hospital and HerbertstownA, B
Kilbehenny & AngelsboroA, B
Kilcommon & HollyfordA, D
Killenaule & MoyglassA
Kilteely & DromkeenA, B
Knockaney & PatrickswellA, B
Knockavilla & DonaskeighA
Knocklong & GlenbrohaneA, B
Lattin & CullenA, B
Loughmore & CastleineyA
Moycarkey & Two-Mile-BorrisA
MullinahoneA
Murroe & BoherA, B
New Inn & KnockgraffonA
Newport & BirdhillC
Pallasgrean & TemplebradenA, B
Solohead & OolaA
Templetuohy & MoyneA
Templemore, Clonmel, & KilleaA
ThurlesA
TipperaryA
Upperchurch & DrombaneA

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X-Message: #2
Date: 6 Nov 1997 08:16:28 -0800
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Subject: Ballyloughloe Parish - Where is it?

Received some information from the Westmeath Heritage Centre regarding a
Michael GILL born April 24, 1837 to William GILL and Ellen KEARNEY. I am
told that this Parish is adjacent to the Parish of Kilcleagh which is in
Westmeath. Would Ballyloughloe Parish stretch into County Longford??

We have information that Michael was born in Co. Longford, but this
information's reliability is unknown. I'd like to know how close
Ballyloughloe would be to Co. Longford. If it is fairly close, then I will
consider this a lead worth following up.

Thanks,

Mary Theresa McCombe

New York

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X-Message: #3
Date: 6 Nov 1997 09:16:44 -0800
From:
To:
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Subject: Tracing O'Rourke/Webb/Motherway/Cole

Please post my search for family roots: Bryan O'Rourke, William Webb,
William James Motherway all from Ireland in and around Sligo. All settled in
Northern Michigan around 1845.

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X-Message: #4
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:23:17 GMT
From: ( )
To:
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Subject: Re: Ship List Anglia IRL-Boston

Bill Walters () wrote:
: I am looking for the list of passengers that arrived in Boston on the
: ship "Anglia" Sept 28, 1863. Searching for info on Irish WALTERS,
: MOONEY, DOHERTY, and McGLINCHY, some of who were from Co. Galway.

http://www.magnet.state.ma.us/sec/arc/arcarc/intro.htm
Massachusetts State Archives for vital records 1845-1905

http://www.nara.gov/nara/regional/01nsbgil.html
National Archives - Northeast Regional Records Administration
in Waltham, MA for Naturalization records and passenger lists
for New England states

http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/immpass.html
U.S. National Archives Catalog of Passenger Arrival and
Immigration Records

These, and other useful links, can be reached from the TIARA web site.

_______________________________________________________________________
Dennis Ahern | The Irish Ancestral Research Association
Acton, Massachusetts | Dept. W, P.O. Box 619, Sudbury, MA 01776
| http://world.std.com/~ahern/TIARA.html
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X-Message: #5
Date: 6 Nov 1997 11:17:23 -0800
From: (Pat Traynor)
To:
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Subject: Re: Is Molohon Irish?
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(Laurie) You wrote .......
>I am having no luck finding any trace of Molohon(or various spellings) on
>any Irish immigrant passenger lists. Is Molohon Irish, Scottish, or
English?
>Any help would help get a leg up on the wall!
>Thanks
>Laurie

In the MULRENNAN pedigree, MUIREADACH MAOILLEATHAN (maoilleathan =
"broad-faced"), a quo O'MAOILLEATHAN, anglicized MOLOHAN, and MULLEHAN. He
was the 16th Christian King of Connaught. He was of the O'Connor of
Connaught pedigree.
Some of his descendants went to America and many other families followed
them. The descendants of all those families have populated the Southern U.S.
to a great extent, making those states almost entirely Celtic. (1892).

See Irish Pedigrees" by John O'Hart. vol.1 page 601.
Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore 1976
Fifth edition, in two volumes. Original printing, Dublin, 1892
Out of print. Found in many LDS Family History Centers and some
library reference sections.

Other names, or maybe spelling variations. The Irish language went
through several major changes over the centuries;
O'Maoilbhrenain = Mulrennan
O'Maoilaithin = Mulattin, Molohan
O'Mulrenin, origins in Mayo, and were chiefs in Roscommon.

Pat Traynor, in California's gold-rush country.

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X-Message: #6
Date: 6 Nov 1997 11:17:23 -0800
From: (Pat Traynor)
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Subject: Re: McGlynn Coat of Arms
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Joe & Conni McGlynn <> You wrote .......
>Does anyone know the McGlynn coat of arms? Any assistance would
>be very helpful, thank you.
====
In "Irish Pedigrees", by John O'Hart,;
Niall of the MacNamara pedigree was ancestor of Flancha in the
Clancy pedigree. Besides MacFlancha, these names also came from the
same prolific root; Flanagan, Flannagan, Flinn, Flynn, Glenn, Glyn,
Linn, Lynn. Macklin, Maglin, Magloin, McGloin.

In the O'Brien, King of Thomond pedigree, Brennan Ban, son of Blad,
who was son of Cas, from which came the term Dal Cais, or
Dalcassians, was an ancestor of O'Brennan, Glinn, Glynn, Maglin,
Magan, Muldowney(Downey), O'Hurley, etc.. The MacGloin clan was in
Rossinver, co. Leitrim.

Afraid that'a all I could glean on that name from that book.
I don't know if GLOIN is a variation of GLYNN, or vice versa.
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Here's a place that has a few;

300 Coat of Arms graphics:
http://digiserve.com/heraldry/index.htm
Goto "What's Hot" then click on "Family names on the Web".

these names are represented;
S u r n a m e s - With Coats of Arms on the Internet
-------------------------------------------------
Abarca Acker Adkins Aglionby Albert Alessandri Alleyne Allison
Allport Alsop Angilly Annis Arduini Arendt Armour Austen Axtell
Bagnall Bailey Baird Baldwin Bard Barnhill Barrington Barwise
Baseggio Beasley Beckett Begley Beirne Bender Berlin Berry
Bicknell Bigelow BIRK Blaies/Blaes Blair Bond Bonner Bradlee
O'Brien Brickey Briggs Browning Brucato Bryan Burke Burleson
Burrowes Butler Byrne McCabe Calnan Caltrap Campbell
Carithers/Carrithers Carmody Carney/Kearney/O'Kearney Carstarphen
McCarty Chaddock Chaney Cherry Christensen Cipriani Clyde
Cortright Coughlans Coutant Croll Crosman Cuindlis
Cullinan/Cullinane Cullinane Cyr Davis Davitashvili Dawes Dawes
Delabarre De Leon MacDermot Dever Dillon Dzimitrowicz Dodt/Todt
Donnelly Donohue Dooley Dresser Duggan DuLong Dundonald Dunn
Duszynski Dymonds O'Dwyer Eggleston Eldridge Fettes Fincham Fiske
FitzGerald Fitzherbert Fleming Flynn Fries Fulton Gagnier
Garavito Gartshore Gaub Gee Gegenheimer Glenister Gelston
Geoghegan Goodman Gore O'Gorman Goulet Goyette Gravius
McGreal/McGrail Greenwood Guenther Gyllenhaal Haemmerle Hagey
Haggas Halbeisen Hampel Harper Harriott Hatcliffe Hatteclif
Hedges Heffernan Heimburg(von) Helm Herberstein Hertko Heyder
Hogben Holcombe Hoppmann Howard Hoxie Humbert Ingersoll Irish
Irvine Iseli Isham Ivers Jewell Jewett Johnstone Earl of
Annandale Hartfell Jungclas Keating Kelly Kelton Kinsella Kip
Kirk Kirwan Klopotek Korczak Korting Krahenbuhl Krstic LaLonde
Laney Langevin Langlotz Laughton Lawlor Lebedeff Lewis Lier
Littlefield Logan Longhorn Lofgreen Lucash Lupo Lynn MacDonald
Maher(Meagher/Mahar) McAnerin McCabe MacCarthy Mor Mackintosh
Magerotte Magruder Maguire O'Mahoney Marble Martin Masters McEvoy
McGill's McGreal/McGrail McKeown McTiernan/McTernan McWhorter
Mergenthaler Messervy Michalowski Mieroszewski Mobley Morales
Morris Moyer Muhlhauser Mulhall Munday Nance Nelson New Oakeley
O'Casey O'Kane O'Kelly Kelton O Mahony Masuda Moreland O'Neill
Orr ROGERS O'Sioda O'Shea Oughton Pagendarm Peelle Pelletier
Pelly Pennebaker Perkins Perryn Pinchbeck Pizzo Plaisted Pobog
Pollard Prather/Prater Prell Prentice Provost Quartermaine Ralph
Rausch Redheugh Rhyne Riddell Riekert Ringena Rivarola Robertson
Rogers Ross O'Rourke Roush Ruxton Sandzak Sawatzky Sawicki
Scheurl Schuldt Schwitzgebel Seale Sears Seb Senzig Shaftoe
Shafto Shand O'Shea Sheridan Sherman Sims Skinner Slagg Slone
Snelson Sofus South Spies Stanier Stellingwerf Stewart Stoney
Strickler Swatzky Swetnam Switzer Tegen McTernan Tiedeman
Tillotson Tobey Trnka Troyer Turner Thatcher Vachon Van Thienen
Thompson Thorn/e Tilghman Tilly Toadvine Todd Todt/Dodt Torrence
Trautmann Tremblay Trnka Trzaskowski Tyo Unser Urbanovicius
Utz/Ouzts Vachon Van Valkenburg van de Vusse Vandenbempt
Vandevusse de Veres Verheggen Vermillion Vinall Vormwald Waldorf
Walsh Webner Wehage Wenger Whalen Whitson Wilkinson Willford
Wingfield Wooten Wozny Wunderlich Wurden Younkin Zemaitis
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Pat Traynor, in California's gold-rush country.

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X-Message: #7
Date: 6 Nov 1997 11:22:52 -0800
From: (MarkPetrie)
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Subject: KILCOLLINS
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I am researching the surname KILCOLLINS or any variation thereof.
The family's earliest known location is New Brunswick, Canada. They
are listed as IRISH.
My problem is, I cann't find the name listed anywhere in Ireland or
in any Irish name book.
I've heard many theories regarding how the name may have changed upon
arrival to North America.
I don't know which port they arrive at, only that they are listed in
the 1851 census for Carleton Co, Parish of Wicklow, New Brunswick.
If anyone can assist me on further information regarding KILCOLLINS,
I would like to correspond with you.
Regards;
Deborah

Regards;
Mark & Deborah Petrie


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X-Message: #8
Date: 6 Nov 1997 12:02:59 -0800
From:
To:
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Subject: Re: GENIRE-D Digest V97 #128

Hi Mary,
Yes I am having the same problem on both digests. I thought it was just me,
but I guess it isn't. What do we do now????
Pat

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X-Message: #9
Date: 6 Nov 1997 13:02:56 -0800
From: (JIMC75)
To:
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Subject: CONNOLLY-RIORDAN, Glin, Limerick, Ireland
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I'm seeking information about my great-grandparents, JAMES and MARY ANN
(RIORDAN) CONNOLLY.
JAMES was born about 1830 in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Eng. (I vaguely
remember hearing a story that he was kidnapped by Gypsies and taken to
Scotland where he was found by an uncle who brought him back to
Newcastle ??) He married about 1865, place unknown, to MARY ANN RIORDAN,
born 1 June 1845 in Glin, Ire. dau. of JOHN RIORDAN and MARY COLLINS.
The first child of JAMES and MARY ANN was ANNA MARIE PAULINE, born 17
April 1866 in Glin. Baptized 29 June 1868 at Lyneack, Tarbert (? ICI
record).
They sailed from Liverpool on the SS Malta, 15 August 1869 for Boston,
Mass.
JAMES died 10 June 1885 in Lakeland, Kentucky. MARY ANN died on 4
September, 1915 in Newport, Kentucky.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

James J. (Jim) Connolly. (

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X-Message: #10
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 17:34:31 -0500
From: Bonnie Herrera <>
To:
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Subject: MILLS James;KY,USA;1800-1900
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Is Mills an irish surname? I am looking for ancestors of
James Mills. I am not sure from where they immigrated. His
wife names was either Mary or Elizabeth Riley. They had a
son by the name of Ben R.
Mills other children????.
These Mills were from Manchester, Clay County Kentucky.
Ben R. Mills wife was Martha Mills who passed in 1947. Ben
passed in 1952.
I am looking for info as to ancestors or descendants of this

family.

Also if anyone knows the origin of the surnames
Blakley,Shelton, or Jones or where to look first. This
would be great info for a newbie, and much appreciated.
thanks.

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X-Message: #11
Date: 6 Nov 97 22:31:36 +0000
From: "Patrick Hogan " <>
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> Hi
> Can anyone help me. From where can I obtain a copy of the marriage
> certificate for James Ellingham and Bridget Maher who had their
> mariage recorded at Thurles, Co Tipperary on 13 June 1853? I have the
> relevant numbers but no registery office address. How much need I
> send?
> Thanks
> Petert
>

Copys of Civil Birth, Death, Marriage.
-----------------------------------------

The cost to provide a Photo copy of a Birth, Death or Marriage entry
recorded in the civil register held in the General Register Office,
Dublin for the 32 Country of Ireland up to 1922, and for the 26 Country
to the present.

1, Photo copy 3:50 Sterling, $7:00 US, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand
Dollar, payment accept by Personal Cheque, Money Order
Bank Draft, made payable to Historical Research Ireland.

1, Full Certificate 8:00 Sterling, $15:00 US, C$ , A$ , NZ$ Dollar.

Delivery is approx 7 to 10 days from receipt of payment.

Should you require further detail fell free to ask !

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X-Message: #12
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 20:17:41 -0600
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Firstly, may I say that this is no joke.

When I hear Bagpipes or a Scottish brogue, or a Scottish name, it gets me "fired up" (for lack of a better
term).

My great grandmother's name was Mcbride, and her daughter, (My grandmother) said that I was "scoth-irish".

What is scotch-irish, and has anyone else here had "feelings of loyalty" as I've described above?

Best reguards,
John Miller

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X-Message: #13
Date: 7 Nov 1997 02:52:20 GMT
From: "yanina brown" <>
To:
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Subject: Clonmel the family English

I'm looking for information on the surname English in the Clonmel area
1800's

Also what county does this town belong?? and is there a written history?

Regards Yanina Brown


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Date: 6 Nov 1997 18:56:08 -0800
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Subject: Re: inherent instinct - Bagpipes
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Well John,
I too love bagpipes. I think because it is such a unique instrument.
On Lake Champlain in the US (Vermont) the fort there (Ticonderoga)
supposedly is haunted by a bagpipe playing ghost.
I too have always wondered about the term "Scots-Irish"
Laura O

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X-Message: #15
Date: 6 Nov 1997 19:02:43 -0800
From: (Ed Murnane)
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yanina brown wrote:
>
> I'm looking for information on the surname English in the Clonmel area
> 1800's
>
> Also what county does this town belong?? and is there a written history?
>
> Regards Yanina Brown
>

Clonmel is the County seat (south) in County Tipperary. YOu might find
try the County Tipperary Historical Society for more information. They
have a good website at: http://www.iol.ie/~tipplibs/

Ed Murnane

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X-Message: #16
Date: 6 Nov 1997 19:23:50 -0800
From:
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Subject: confusing death notation

Good evening, Good morning all !
I located the following record yesterday and it's somewhat confusing. I
would appreciate any insight.

"Ann, the daughter of the late John Cockbourne...of the parish of....and of
Elizabeth his wife, by her maiden name Dunlop was born on the...1842... Died
on the...1847...etc, etc."

by
William Thompson

Minister

Witnefses,

his
Thomas X Blair Not able to write - W.T.
mark
Francis Humphrys

Dilemma #1: Thomas Blair's mother is Elizabeth. His father Hugh was
Elizabeth's first husband. Ann is his half sister. Thomas was 20 when Ann
died. If his mother remarried, say in 1841, Thomas was 13. Why wouldn't he
be known by his "new" father's name?

Dilemma #2: While Thomas didn't have beautiful handwriting through his life,
he DID sign several papers beginning from when he was 28 on. They're
definitely all the same signature. Why the notation by the Minister that
Thomas was "not able to write?" Could he simply have been ill at the time of
his half sister's death? Why not have another witness present?

All opinions greeted with much celebration.
Thanks,
Catherine

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X-Message: #17
Date: 6 Nov 1997 19:40:54 -0800
From: (William H Grimes)
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Subject: Re: GENIRE-D Digest V97 #128
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wrote:
>
> Hi Mary,
> Yes I am having the same problem on both digests. I thought it was just me,
> but I guess it isn't. What do we do now????
> Pat

Your problem probably lies with AOL, not with GENIRE. This is a common
event for AOL users.

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X-Message: #18
Date: 7 Nov 1997 03:52:59 GMT
From: "Nancy Adams" <>
To:
Message-ID: <01bceb2f$cf926780$>
Subject: Cunningham Hugh and Nancy (ann)

I am looking for anything to do with this couple who came to New Brunswick
canada from northern Ireland. with sons thomas and samuel and possibly a
brother james


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X-Message: #19
Date: 6 Nov 1997 21:19:41 -0800
From: (William H Grimes)
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Subject: Re: inherent instinct - Bagpipes/Scots-Irish
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wrote:
>
> Well John,
> I too love bagpipes. I think because it is such a unique instrument.
> On Lake Champlain in the US (Vermont) the fort there (Ticonderoga)
> supposedly is haunted by a bagpipe playing ghost.
> I too have always wondered about the term "Scots-Irish"
> Laura O

I am not an expert on the Scots-Irish subject but there was a discussion
on another group some time back which went something like this....

Scots-Irish refers mainly to those Scots who were transplanted to
Ireland. These were often non-Catholic and non-Church of England or
Church of Ireland. Most were Presbyterian. They eventually became more
Iris than the Irish. For economic and other reasons many emigrated to
the US in the 1700s and early 1800s. They settled quite often in the
southern US, especially the Appalachian areas. In the US the term is
usually Scotch-Irish.

The Catholic Irisha and Scots-Irish tended to settle in PA, NY, New
England, etc. rather than say VA or the Carolinas.

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X-Message: #20
Date: 6 Nov 1997 21:46:58 -0800
From: (Margaret Grogan)
To:
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Subject: My Home Page
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I would like to thank everyone for their replies to my questions.

Margaret
Researching:
DALEY CLA,IRL>VIC,AUS DAVIES GLA,WLS>VIC,AUS DONAHUE IRL>SA,AUS,
GROGAN COR,IRL>VIC,AUS MILLS LOG,IRL>NSW,AUS OLIVER ENG>SA,AUS
PEARCE MDX,ENG>VIC,AUS SMITH OXF,ENG>VIC,AUS, WILLIAMS> BRE,WLS>VIC,AUS
Home Page: http://www.sci.net.au/mgrogan
Moruya Historical Society: http://www.sci.net.au/mgrogan/mhs
Email or,

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X-Message: #21
Date: 6 Nov 1997 22:34:42 -0800
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Subject: Re: The one thing worse than Spam
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(Bill) wrote in GENIRE-Digest Volume 97 :
Issue 128

> Subject: Re: The one thing worse than Spam
> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 04:13:54 GMT
> From: (Bill)
> To:

> Spam in my newsgroups is
> infrequent and recognisable and easily zapped. No problem, probably
> thanks to list owners. HOWEVER, spam in my email inbox is increasing
> at a very rapid rate. I subscribe to a lot of genealogy listservs and
> they are getting loaded with spams offering all sorts of
> non-genealogical scams. I get a lot of email a day. I have tried a
> couple of spam filters offered through ZDNet, but they have problems
> discriminating spam from legit listserv messages. I spend a lot of
> time perusing email to be sure of content because they are not always
> obvious. Otherwise the filters would get them. Soon half my email
> will be spam. It's like be surrounded by a growing cloud of
> mosquitos.
>
> In sum, spam takes up space in my ISP and on my computer, it wastes
> too much of my time, it is invasive and unwelcome, and it is an
> undeserved free advertising ride to spammers at my expense. Let's
> get rid of them.

Bill:

It seems to me that what is unwelcome is the unsolicited
nature of much spam. Advertising in itself is a necessary
part of the way today's world goes around.

What we lack online is the choice to refuse it, and that is
what makes me angry.

Isn't there a clever software developer out there who can
work out a way to attach a NO JUNK MAIL to e-mail
letterboxes, just as we can put such a note on our real
letter-boxes.

This will not keep all junk mail out, but a lot of
advertisers respect the NO JUNK MAIL sign.

Just a thought.

Maria in Hobart


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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 23:11:16 -0700
From: Bill Walters <>
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Subject: Are there ANY Irish WALTERS?
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WALTERS is not a very common Irish name. I'll gladly accept ANY type of
info on ANY Walters ANY place in Ireland. My gg grandfather Richard
WALTERS b abt 1800 Co Galway? married Sarah MOONEY. The trouble is
hedidn't leave a very good trail. I'll take ANYTHING! For those of you
that sub to both ireland and uk+ireland, I applogize for the double
coverage.
Bill Walters

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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 10:05:52 -0800
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Subject: Re: Ballyloughloe Parish - Where is it?
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wrote:
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> Received some information from the Westmeath Heritage Centre regarding a
> Michael GILL born April 24, 1837 to William GILL and Ellen KEARNEY. I am
> told that this Parish is adjacent to the Parish of Kilcleagh which is in
> Westmeath. Would Ballyloughloe Parish stretch into County Longford??
>
> We have information that Michael was born in Co. Longford, but this
> information's reliability is unknown. I'd like to know how close
> Ballyloughloe would be to Co. Longford. If it is fairly close, then I will
> consider this a lead worth following up.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mary Theresa McCombe
>
> New York

All the references that I have show that Ballyloughloe is completely
enclosed by county Westmeath, and would involve a journey of at least 10
miles to the southern border of county Longford. For most people,
journeys were to and from their convenient market town, so you might
examine the probabilities of Ballymahon in co. Longford, as opposed to
Ballymore and Athlone in Co. Westmeath.

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