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GENIRE-D DigestVolume 97 : Issue 15
Today's Topics:
Re: Iriah Johnsons
[ ] Re: Iriah Johnsons
[ ]
mcelligott
[ ] mcelligott
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** Ireland Surname Queries for the w [ ] ** Ireland Surname Queries for the w [ ]
Daly & Rowan,
[ ] Daly & Rowan,
[ ]
Estate Records?
[ ] Estate Records?
[ ]
Where is Farley's (or Farney's) Cros [ ] Where is Farley's (or Farney's) Cros [ ]
Re: SCANLON/CANTLIN
[ ] Re: SCANLON/CANTLIN
[ ]
LEMON, James; IRELAND >, MA,USA; 172 [ ] LEMON, James; IRELAND >, MA,USA; 172 [ ]
Medical Studies in Ireland
[ ] Medical Studies in Ireland
[ ]
Seeking relatives of Michael Cliffor [ ] Seeking relatives of Michael Cliffor [ ]
Bailie/ Finlay
[ ] Bailie/ Finlay
[ ]
A Farrell kidnapping
[ ] A Farrell kidnapping
[ ]
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Date: 24 Aug 1997 14:21:44 -0700
From: (Bob)
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Subject: Re: Iriah Johnsons
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One of my great great grandparents was William Johnson born abt 1814-5.
Ihave the following Immigration information on him.
Declaration of Intent dated May 4,1847 filed at Canandaigua in Ontario
County,NY
He was born in the town of Drogan, Derryvullan Parish, Co Fermanagh,
Ireland and was a subject of Queen Victoria.
He was 32 years of age.
He emigrated from the port of Derry on April 12,1842.
He arrived at the City of New York about June 8, 1842.
He was living in the town of Phelps since May 20, 1843.
He spent the rest of his life in the Manchester township in Ontario Co.,
NY. He owned a large farm and was very successful with it. He died Jan
14, 1896 as a widower. His wife Mary and he had 11 children who scattered
all over the USA.
Bob
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RE: Are there any other Irish Johnsons out there?!
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 20:50:20 GMT
From: (Johnny McElligott)
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Subject: mcelligott
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any mcelligott in ireland , my granfather was born in Laharan in 1903
Dennis MCELLIGOTT , his father was john mcelligott his motherjohanna
shea
http://www.infobahnos.com/~johnnymc
ICQ. UIN: 815586
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 21:56:20 GMT
From: Tim Pierce <>
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Subject: ** Ireland Surname Queries for the week of 24 Aug 97 **
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This is a summary of queries posted to soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland
within the last seven days which pertain to Ireland (including North
Ireland). Each of the lines listed below was the Subject line of a
recent surname query or response.
This regular posting is motivated by the soc.genealogy.uk+ireland FAQ.
There, it is recommended that posts which simply seek information
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directed to the newsgroup soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland, which has
been set up specifically for such postings. That newsgroup is
archived and moderated (with an associated mailing list GENNAM-L).
The chief role of the moderator is to ensure that each surname query
has an informative subject heading in a standard style, aimed at
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likely interest that they can then read at leisure.
In contrast, the posting to this group of large numbers of surname
searches greatly diminishes the utility and practicability of the
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Irish genealogy. (Since soc.genealogy.ireland is not moderated, there
is no practicable way of ensuring that messages sent to it have
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Please do NOT ask me for more information on the names listed
below, or for copies of the associated posts. This message was
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is a list of suggestions for retrieving the original queries.
Suggestions for improving this announcement service will be
gratefully received.
IRELAND SURNAME QUERIES for the week of 24 Aug 97:
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AHAM; IRL > Lowell, MA,USA; 1810-
ARDREY / ARDERY; IRL> USA; 1770-
BALFOUR; FER,NIR; 1730-1840
BODKIN / BOTKIN; IRL > USA; b. 1738
BOTHWELL; SCT > NIR > ON,CAN; 1850-
BREAKEY; IRL>USA; 1851
BROWN James; Belfast, UIE,IRL / Peterborough, ON,CAN; 1807-1890
CARROLL, James; ARM,NIR; 1768
CAVANAUGH; IRL>IL,USA; 1814-
COLLINS,Ellen / COLLINS,Jack / COLLINS Nancy; LIM,IRL>LND,ENG; 1842-
CONDON; Cork,IRL; c.1845
CROWLEY Edward; COR,IRL>NY,USA; 1810-
CURHAM; Kilcullen,KID,IRL; anytime
CURRAN; DOW,NIR; 1780-1872
DARMODY; IRL>MA,USA; 1856
DARRAH / DARRAGH / DARRA, Archibald; ANT,NIR; 1717-1770
DEIGHNAN / DEIGNAN Patrick; Riverstown.SLI,IRL / SCT; 1875-1950
DETLOR / TETTLER / DEDLER; DEU> IRL> NY,USA> CAN; c. 1700
DIXON; IRL; 1840-
DUFF John; IRL > QC,CAN; 1750-
DUKE Ezekiel; ARM,NIR; 1800-1900
FAWCETT; FER,NIR; 1750-1900
FITZGERALD James; IRL > QC,CAN; 1762-
FLYNN; ROS,IRL; 1811-1845
GRAHAM, David / HILL, Maria; IRL; 1850
GRIFFIN, James; IRL; 1800
GRIFFIN, John; IRL; 1800
HANLEY; IRL>MA,USA; 1862-1936
HAYNES James; IRL > USA; 1831-1871
HENNIGAN; IRL > MA,USA > NH,USA; 1800-1889
HOULIHAN; IRL > ON,CAN; -1825
HOWLETT; WEX,IRL; b. c. 1864
KEATING; IRL; 1816
KELLY / KILKELLY; IRL > PA,USA; 1821
LOUGHNAN; IRL>AUS; -1842
LYNCHE; IRL; c. 1840
MAHIN James; IRL>VA,USA; 1750-1860
MCBRIDE; TYR,NIR; 1800-1990
MCCARTHY; COR,IRL; 1795-1835
MCCUDDEN; ARM,NIR; anytime
MCELHINNEY, Andrew; NIR; 1833
MCGINNIS; DUB,IRL; -1920
MITCHELL Mary; NIR; 1870
MULVANEY / COLLINS; IRL; -1870
OSBORNE; County Tyrone, NIR > Portsmouth, ENG > Sterling, SCT > Midloathian, SCT >Beaverton, ON,CAN > Toronto, ON,CAN; 1789-1865
PARKER; FER,NIR; 1750-1900
PLUNKETT; FER,NIR; 1750-1900
ROONEY; DUB,IRL; -1870
SISK; COR,IRL; 1600-
STOOPS, John; IRL; 1820
SWEENEY; DON,IRL; 1845
TRAINOR John; ARM,NIR >ON,CAN; c. 1800
WALKER, James; IRL; 1821
WALLACE Elizabeth; NIR; 1843
WALSH / WELCH David Goodwin; IRL > NY,USA; c. 1850
WARNOCK; DOW,NIR; 1790-1900
WHITTAKER William; IRL > USA; 1880
WILKINSON; ARM,NIR> CAN> USA; 1820-
WILSON John; NIR; 1788
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Date: 24 Aug 1997 15:28:29 -0700
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Subject: Daly & Rowan,
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Can anyone help me find my wife's ancestors or descendants of
John Daly born About 1861, lived at Corlismore, died December 1944
Married Brigid Rowan had three children Patrick Daly about 1891,
John Daly 6 August 1893 who married Elizabeth Culleton and and
lived in Monaghan & Thomas Daly About 1897 was 18 when
he was Killed in the first world war.
I'm Welsh My wife Ingrid is half Irish & half Welsh
Hope some one can help
Thanks
Ray
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Date: 24 Aug 1997 17:21:48 -0700
From: (Anne Lamb)
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Subject: Estate Records?
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>The Jagoe family in Ireland apparently was established at Kilronan,
>described in the 1837 Topographical Dictionary of Ireland as one of
>the "principal seats" of Fanlobbus Parish, near Dunmanway, County
>Cork, occupied then by Nicholas Bird Jagoe, Esq.
>I take it this refers to a manor house or estate. The family
>apparently was there by 1742, if not before. This was a Church of
>Ireland family, that may have come from England as part of the
>plantation programs. The family also seems to have had considerable
>other landholdings in Cork.
>Does anyone know of any records concerning named estates like
>Kilronan? Any other records, other than the usual Irish sources
>(already did tithe applotments, Griffith's, etc.) that might help in a
>situation like this?
Dexter,
Have you looked at the Hayes "Manuscript Sources for the History of Irish
Civilization"? FHL # 1440939 through 1440943. Some big libraries may
have a bound-book set (like the FHL in Salt Lake or the National Library
of Ireland), but the most likely place to find it will be on microfilm
through the Family History Center.
It is indexed by Name, Place and Subject, so you can go at it all those
ways.
Also, don't overlook The Casey Collection. "O'Kief, Coshe Mang etc."
This set is in many big libraries, with indexes, in book form, or you can
also get it on film. Lots of information on Co. Cork.
I am not familiar with this particular family, but I do know that this
name may also be found as Jacobs, Igoe, Mac Iago, etc.
Anne Lamb
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Date: 25 Aug 1997 00:15:23 GMT
From: (Patsina55)
To:
Subject: Where is Farley's (or Farney's) Cross?
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My great-grandmother, Ellen Buckley, was born there in 1855. We hope to
visit Ireland next year, and I'd like to visit her hometown. It may be a
village or a section of a city-I can't find it on any map. Thanks!
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Date: 24 Aug 1997 18:35:07 -0700
From: (Margaret J Stevens)
To:
Subject: Re: SCANLON/CANTLIN
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Dublin family is lurking somewhere. Looking for Ann, born October 3
either 1839 or 1841, daughter of John. Ann married William Stevens,
dumped him allegedly and moved to Brantford, Ontario, Canada circa 1860.
Joyce Stevens
Livonia, Michigan
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Date: 24 Aug 1997 18:41:26 -0700
From: (Paul and Brenda Nichols)
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Subject: LEMON, James; IRELAND >, MA,USA; 1727
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LEMON, James; IRELAND >MA,USA; 1727
My ancestor reportedly came to the USA with wife Polly and sons
Samuel and James to Belchertown, western Mass.
His name has also been reported as LAMONT.
Any clues?
Paul of San Diego/Boston
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Date: 24 Aug 1997 19:06:51 -0700
From: (G . EDWARD ALLEN)
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Subject: Medical Studies in Ireland
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My husband's ancestor, Gustavus Allen M.D. was born 1792, Letterkenney,
co. Donegal. About 1810, he went to study medicine with a Dr. Patterson
in Londonderry. Would there be any sort of apprenticeship record or
record with the Royal college of Physicians? If so, where might I go to
search for these records? Would he have gone to University first?
Thank you very much.
Kay Allen
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Date: 25 Aug 1997 02:43:08 GMT
From: "James Clifford" <>
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Subject: Seeking relatives of Michael Clifford, DOB March 19, 1847
Message-ID: <01bcb0f9$b71b5ba0$>
I am seeking a link between my g-grandfather, Michael Clifford, who was
born on March 19, 1847, probably in Cork, and who emigrated to Wisconsin,
in the US, in 1856 or so.
His father, name unknown, was already in Wisconsin. Michael came over when
he was nine years old, alone. Michael farmed his entire life in Mapleton,
Blue Earch County, Minnesota. He died on April 9, 1930. He had ten
children, eight of whom lived. I never knew any of them, save for my
grandfather, who was also named Michael. My granfather's brothers, and the
states they lived in in 1930, are as follows:
Tim....Gary, Indiana
Frank...DeGraff, Minnesota
William....Dixon, Illinois
George.....Mankato, Minnesota
Any leads toward finding Irish roots/relatives would be appreciated. My
preferred e-mail address is:
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Date: 25 Aug 1997 11:08:23 GMT
From: "Kenneth J Baillie" <>
To:
Subject: Bailie/ Finlay
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I am looking for possible relatives in Co. Down around Killileagh and
Killinchy. My father was born in Glasgow, but his father came from
Ballyminstraugh and his mother from Killinchy.. His father. John Bailie who
married Mary Jane Finlay in Killileagh on Aug 24 1878. The family moved to
Glasgow where my father and other members of the family were born. After
the family moved to Glasgow, they added another l to the family name so
that it was spelt Baillie.
On my grandmother's side of the family, I would like to hear from any of
the Finlay family who live in County Down and who could be related. I have
more details of the Finlays that we could compare . Please reply to this
news group or to my e-mail address .
Ken Baillie
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 11:52:46 -0700
From: maryann <>
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Subject: A Farrell kidnapping
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A few years ago, I tracked down a wonderful lady who would have been
my mother's second cousin. She told me a few things about my
Farrells. One of the stories that she told was about her mother's
'kidnapping'. I'm hoping that someone will recognize this story and
contact me with more Farrell info.
John Farrell was born in 1851 in Dysart/Tisrara, Roscommon. He was
the son of Judith (Flynn) and James Farrell. There were a few other
children, Anne (Gately), Bernard, Michael and Mary (McCormick), possibly
more. All of the children came to this country except John and Anne.
John had several children, one of whom was Annie Farrell (Collins), who
was born about 1888. John's older children came to this county. When
they learned that John had remarried a Margaret Flynn in 1897, they
didn't want the younger children who stayed behind (one of them was
Annie) to be brought up by the new wife. The older children went back
to Ireland and 'kidnapped' the younger children. John learned of the
kidnapping in time to get to the dock and see the boat pull away. He
never got them back; they stayed in this country. John had several more
children and supposedly their descendants are living in Ballinasloe,
Galway. Annie eventually ended up living with my ggrandmother Mary
Farrell McCormick in a brownstone boarding house that she ran near the
Immaculate Conception Church in Boston. Because of the kidnapping, Annie
was always afraid to go back to Ireland. She died in 1984.
Does this story or any of the names sound familiar to anyone?
To reply please remove the 22 from my address.
Thank you
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