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From: "Debbie" <>
Subject: How many have no idea where their families are from?
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:08:22 -0800
References: <BAY103-F410E036F4131A0608C7C71C66C0@phx.gbl> <BAY104-DAV16C82A91BFE76C822FB71AD06C0@phx.gbl>


Hello all!

I was amazed at how many people have responded with requests to check the
founding family list for the Chernigov district. That got me to thinking.
I'm curious how many people just on this list are still hunting for
locations that their families came from? Do you perhaps have ties to the
Volga on one side and unknown on the other? Or do you have only family lore
to go by that your family came from the Volga but you can't locate their
names on any Volga information so you still aren't sure if they are from the
Volga or not?

I'd be interested to hear responses on these questions. I am thinking that
perhaps response through the list might help us all understand what we are
facing regarding research in this area.

Debbie Beick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbie" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [GV] Re:founding list of names


> Carol,
>
> Yes, I have:
>
> KEIL, Adam, luth., Kaminkerer, aus Oschatz, Dok. Nr. 2837, Frau: Maria,
> Kinder: Johann und Maria
>
> No other KEIL's are listed.
>
> There are no HOLSTEIN's listed.
>
> Deb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Smilely IDONTKNOW" <>
> To: <>; <>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 6:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [GV] Re:founding list of names
>
>
> > Debbie, from your founding list of names, do you have Keil or Holstein?
> > Carol
> >
> >
> > >From: "Debbie" <>
> > >To:
> > >Subject: Re: [GV] Re: Anyone know of "Cheritnow"
> > >Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:10:51 -0800
> > >
> > >This may be way off, but there was an enclave of GR's in the area of
> > >Chernigow (Tschernigov) Russia. However, it is a very long way from
> > >Saratov
> > >in the Volga region. Chernigow is located about 50 miles north of
Kiev.
> > >
> > >I have a founding family list of names from this region (initial
villages
> > >were founded in 1767) but did not find the NUB name on the list.
> However,
> > >it is possible that there were NUB families in this region after the
> > >initial
> > >colonies were settled. There are some sparse village records available
> for
> > >Chernigov at the LDS, one register from 1874 and on from 1901-1905 for
> the
> > >Roman Catholics. Nothing for the protestants. (This is from a check
on
> > >the
> > >village I made in 1998.)
> > >
> > >Debbie Beick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jerry Frank" <>
> > >To: <>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:55 PM
> > >Subject: [GV] Re: Anyone know of "Cheritnow"
> > >
> > >
> > > > At 02:00 PM 15/02/2005, wrote:
> > > > >GER-VOLGA-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue
42
> > > > >
> > > > >Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:42:10 -0700
> > > > >From: "Jacob Naeb" <>
> > > > >
> > > > >I have been trying to find out if anyone has heard of a town my GR
> > > > >grandfather, and the list from ship the emmigrated to the US on -
In
> > >the
> > > > >ship list it is called "Charstown", my grandpa spelled it
"Cheritnow"
> > >and
> > > > >pronounced it (har ee donov) with a gutteral "h" sound. I have
looked
> > >at
> > > > >maps and lists and have not found any of these names. My family was
> > >"Volga
> > > > >Deutsch" and I was told we were from near Saratov.
> > > > >
> > > > >I have been looking at Kraft and Kamenka because this is where I've
> > >found
> > > > >"Nab" on the first settlers lists.
> > > > >
> > > > >Any help greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jacob Naeb
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What port did your family enter at? I had wanted to check the
> spelling
> > >on
> > > > the original written document so I searched for NAB on the Ellis
> Island
> > > > site. The only one I found from Russia was the Johannes Nab family
> > > > arriving in 1912 from Kana, Russia and heading for Greeley, CO. The
> > >were
> > > > travelling with the Schenk and Pankratz families from the same
> > > > location. All families refer to next of kin in what looks like
Kana,
> > >Tarek
> > > > (or Tarck), Russia.
> > > >
> > > > A ShtetlSeeker search for all places within a 30 mile radius of
> Saratov
> > > > yielded no suitable results for places beginning "Ch" nor the the
> > >sometime
> > > > transliterated "Kh". I did a similar search for the radius around
> Kana
> > >aka
> > > > Pallasowka and also came up blank.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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