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From: Valorie Zimmerman <>
Subject: Re: [Ger-Als] BIRSCHDORF, ou BISCHHOLTZ
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 03:30:00 -0800
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 02:17:29 -0800
Valorie Zimmerman <> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:03:00 -0500
> "Leslie Shuster" <> wrote:
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> > I posted a message some time back, with a question. Perhaps someone different seeing this, may respond with information or a comment. I/we are hunting for the city/town/village of Birschdorf Europa. An ancestor Johan Schuster is listed as being born in 1720 in Birschdorf, Euorpa. This is listed on his headstone. Any other spelling and/or even perhaps a misspelling may have been carved on the headstone. Any thoughts about this Birschdorf, Europa. Thanks, Leslie Shuster
>
> Leslie, I googled around a bit, and found this website:
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> http://www.viallet.org/arbresgen/liste/lorentz.web/idx533.htm
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> which uses the phrase "BIRSCHDORF, ou BISCHHOLTZ" -- which means Birschdorf, or Bischholtz. "Europa" is Europe, I believe. More on Bischholtz from the A-Z site:
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> http://www.rootsweb.com/~fraalsac/alsaceaz/alsaceb.htm#bischholtz
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> Both civil and church records are available on microfilm from the LDS. However, the earliest records filmed are 1736. Still, you might find marriage records of your ancestor or for his siblings or cousins. For more about how to find these records in the FHLC:
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> http://valoriez.blogspot.com/2004/03/make-family-history-library-catalog.html

Just to add a bit of information, I just looked up Bischholtz in my copy of Thode's Alsace-Lorraine Genealogical Gazetteer, and he has Bischholtz listed. I will put the listing, and then the explanation:

Bischholtz - Bischholz (F-67340 Ingwiller)
Bischholz - Bischholtz, Arr. Saverne; P1736-1791, V1792-1862

A hyphen (-) to separate a listing from its explanation. If a German place-name is in the alphabetical listing (to the left of the hyphen), then a French place-name in Alsace-Lorraine is to the right, and it should have the Arrondissement listed. If a French place-name is in the alphabetical listing (to the left of the hyphen), then a German place-name in Alsace-Lorraine is to the right, followed in parentheses by the French postal code and French place-name. If there is only a place-name to the right of the hyphen, then the place to the left is probably very small and unincorporated, located near the (larger) place on the right; it may also be a castle, mountain, etc.

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Occasionally, following the parentheses, there is a semicolon followed by abbreviations and dates. The following explains the abbreviations:

P : Protestant church records
V : Vital records, usually 1792-1862....

Again, I hope this additional information is useful. Ingwiller is indeed the largest town near Bischholtz according to mappy.com. The Saverne arrondissement is north of Strasbourg.

Valorie

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