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From: "Ron Bozzay" <>
Subject: RE: Re: [Ger-Als] Heinrich Philipp Gerhardt
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:22:44 -0500


Hi, Maurice,

Not all acts of marriage tell the village where a bride or groom was born.
Some do others give a more general locale.

Another part of the puzzle is, what this a civil act or a church record?
There can be, but are not always, more than one record of the marriage.

A third option, do you know what his occupation was? In that time there
were
often extensive records kept by guilds if he belonged to one.

And there is always the possibility that what you need to answer your
question
was never recorded or was destroyed during one of the many wars that took
place
in that area over the centuries. Not what we want to hear, but it can be
the reality.

Some of the towns no longer exist with the names we know them by today and
many
were swallowed up by bigger towns that grew to include them. So a place
name may
be there but not be recognizable by today's geography.

This is another possible lead. This web site (which exists in many
languages) http://ddebus.free.fr/indexe.htm
has a way to enter your surname (patrynom in French) and it shows you the
towns and villages where that
surname existed. When I queried for your surname only one town came back:
NIEDERBRONN LES BAINS
That does not mean that is where your relative came from, but you could at
least try looking in the records of
that one town to see if your relative is listed.

Good Luck.

Laura


> [Original Message]
> From: maurice girard <>
> To: <>
> Date: 5/25/2005 8:03:05 PM
> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Ger-Als] Heinrich Philipp Gerhardt
>
> I receive today a notarize act of marriage of my ancestor and it was
> written born in Lorraine but nothing else about his birth place. Maybe
> Sarrebourg, Metz, Lutterbach, Lauterbach, Littersbach-Zweibrcken,
> Lauttenbach. I am confused. Thank you.
>
> Maurice Girard
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lindsey Yeten" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Als] Heinrich Philipp Gerhardt
>
>
> > You're welcome, Maurice. We were writing at the same time, I just
read
> your message.
> > Yes, the info. at LDS is submitted by other researchers and often
> incorrect. You must look for original birth records. I'll keep
> searching...let me know what you turn up. Good luck!
> > Lindsey
> >
> > maurice girard <> wrote:
> > Hello! Thanks for all your help. However, he married Madeleine
Lapointe
> > in St. Nicholas, QC Canada, and not in Sarrebourg. There is a
> discrepancy
> > in the birthdate. I have July 1756 but perhaps he enrolled into the
army
> > when he was younger and lied about his age!
> >
> > Maurice Girard
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lindsey Yeten"
> >
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Als] Heinrich Philipp Gerhardt
> >
> >
> >> Dear Maurice,
> >> I have only started to look for your ancestors..with what limited
> > resources I have. Does this file from LDS site match up?
> >> Philip GERHARDT (AFN: 1H4X-W51) PedigreeSex: MFamily
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------
> >> Event(s):Birth: Abt 1762, Moselle, FranceDeath: 29 May 1826, , Canada
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------
> >> Parents:
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------
> >> Marriage(s):Spouse: Madeleine LAPOINTE (AFN: 1H4X-W67) Family
Marriage:
> > 12 Jun 1787Sarrebourg, Moselle, France
> >> If you haven't already seen that file, go to www.familysearch.org,
then
> > type in Philip Gerhardt, country, France. I will check my French
> genealogy
> > site for Sarrebourg, then.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Lindsey Y.
> >>
> >> maurice girard wrote:
> >> I am looking for the parents of Philip Gerhardt born July 1756 in
> > Litterbach-Zweibrcken or Sarrebourg Metz Lorraine. His father was
born
> > around 1723 and his mother around 1731. He came to Quebec, Canada in
> 1777
> > with the Hesse Hanau Regiment, company of Von Schell. Philip was
> catholic.
> >>
> >> If anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Maurice Girard
> >> Magog, QC CANADA
> >>
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