GERMAN-NY-L Archives

Archiver > GERMAN-NY > 2006-12 > 1165037225


From: "Lorraine Degelia" <>
Subject: Re: [GERMAN-NY] Christian Gerhardt HAHN
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 23:27:05 -0600
References: <BAY122-F30E279FA4A8792A7A5175ACBE40@phx.gbl><006601c714fd$f8eafe60$b1ccc448@dell><000a01c71580$0683da10$210110ac@Lorraine><006a01c715c2$5222f590$b1ccc448@dell>


Hello Again Karen: Have you tried these??? They all should work, I tested
them.



http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/emigration.html
http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ger1871.html
http://www.germangenealogygroup.com/default.htm
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/

Lorraine


----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Williamson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [GERMAN-NY] Christian Gerhardt HAHN


> Dear Lorraine,
>
> Thank you, thank you so much for your finds on Christian Gerhardt, I will
> check them out, and let you know what I find, always searching, never know
> what will turn up, I just wish I had another name for Christian, so I
> could
> pin him down. I did recently find some military information for him, and
> I
> have written to the Natl. Archives to try and get his military pension
> records hoping this information will help with the search.I also found on
> his death certificate, that his mother was Elizabeth Bowers and his father
> was also Christian Gerhardt, again no other name. I found two military
> records, not sure which is is, but will try both and hope one is the
> correct
> one. Thanks again,
>
> Karen Zubrod Williamson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lorraine Degelia" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-NY] Christian Gerhardt HAHN
>
>
>> Hello Karen: I just saw your em on Christian Gerhardt bd 1834. I only
>> found
>> 1 Christian Gerhardt born in 1834, he was 26. This is on the 1860 Fed.
>> Census. He is listed with a Margaret age 25 and Johana 6 mos.
>> Don't know what transpired in any of your em prior to this one. He was
>> born
>> in Hesse Darmstadt. In
>> NY it would be ward 19, dist. 1 NY, NY.and he is listed as a milkman. No
>> street name is listed but the house # is 1343.
>> I found this on Ancestry. In addition, on the same page, the very first
>> line is another Christian but no last name is given, he is 12 yo and I
>> don't
>> think this would be yours. I don't know if you are aware, but on
>> Ancestry,
>> if you only have the first name, you can type it in and it will bring up
>> all
>> your Christian names.
>> Good Luck
>> Lorraine
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Karen Williamson" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-NY] HAHN
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Dear Susie,
>>>
>>> I am sure you are right, I just need to find some info that traces him
>>> from
>>> New York to Alsase Lorraine. I have found several Christian Gerhardts
>>> but
>>> they are never the right ones, my Christian Gerhardt was born June 12,
>>> 1834,
>>> and of course I have no other name just Christian which makes him
>>> difficult
>>> to trace, I will keep you posted on Hahn's. Happy Holidays
>>>
>>> Karen Zubrod Williamson
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Susie Lewis" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-NY] HAHN
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks Karen
>>>>
>>>> In regards to your great great grandfather Christian Gerhardt, if
>>>> things
>>>> are
>>>> anything like the constant migrations during that time frame it is
>>>> quite
>>>> possible that he was born in Hess Darmstadt, Germany and that his
>>>> parents
>>>> then moved while he was quite young and he then grew up and spent most
>>>> of
>>>> his life in the Alsase Lorraine area.
>>>>
>>>> My daughter was born in Vancouver, BC but we moved when she was 4
>>>> months
>>>> old
>>>> and she won't know anything but Ontario as her home and where she was
>>>> from.
>>>> Yet her records say that she is from Vancouver, BC. The other
>>>> possibility
>>>> is that Christians parents could have been French but for some reason
>>>> or
>>>> another where in Germany at the tiime of his birth and then soon
>>>> afterwards
>>>> moved back to France.
>>>>
>>>> I have had some real interesting life lines for some of my people. It
>>>> had
>>>> been next to impossible to track one in particular and make sence of
>>>> conflicting information until someone in the family found an old diary
>>>> and
>>>> then all of a sudden the answer to what seemed to be contradiction,
>>>> were
>>>> yes, ALL of it was true with minor adjustments.
>>>>
>>>> IE. One lady immigrated from Poland to Canada in 1930 but yet was on
>>>> Hitlers
>>>> resettelment records resetteling those from Eastern Europe back into
>>>> German
>>>> held territory in the late 1930's early 40's.
>>>>
>>>> The answer; her father had gone from Poland to Brazil looking for work
>>>> during the Depression and ended up moving the family to Canada where
>>>> they
>>>> setteled down. Except now, his wife hated it, they had marriage
>>>> problems,
>>>> she left him took their daughter and returned back home to Poland where
>>>> they
>>>> then were part of the resettelment program at a latter date. Lives
>>>> where
>>>> often tumultious and resulted in making it very difficult for us 100 or
>>>> so
>>>> years latter to figure out. Very often the answers are this AND that
>>>> instead
>>>> of this OR that.
>>>>
>>>> Please do let me know if you do come up on any more info on the Hahns.
>>>>
>>>> I wish my greats had recorded names of sibbling, as well as parents
>>>> etc.
>>>> It
>>>> would make finding connections so much easier.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again
>>>> Susie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I come across more information on the Hahn's that might help with a
>>>> connection, I will let you know. I have been working on my other
>>>> lines,
>>>> and
>>>> not paying a lot of attention to the Hahn's, but hopefully in the next
>>>> month
>>>> or two, I will start working on this line again. My other lines are
>>>> Gerhardt, Zubrod, Sjostrand, Okvist and O'Sullivan. The Gerhardts are
>>>> the
>>>> most elusive, still trying to find out exactly where they came from.
>>>> Using
>>>> the info I currently have, I believe they came from the Alsase Lorraine
>>>> area. My great great grandfather Christian Gerhardt says on his
>>>> naturalization papers that he is from Hesse Darmstadt, Germany, and on
>>>> the
>>>> census records, he speaks French and is from France, and both parents
>>>> are
>>>> French. His two oldest daughters always say that he is French whenever
>>>> I
>>>> find them on the census records.
>>>>
>>>> Karen Zubrod Williamson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Susie Lewis" <>
>>>> To: <>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-NY] HAHN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Thanks Karen,
>>>> >
>>>> > It is hard to say with the limited info that we have if there is a
>>>> > connection or not. Oh well. Thanks anyhow.
>>>> >
>>>> > Susie Lewis
>>>> >
>>>> > ----Original Message Follows----
>>>> > From: "Karen Williamson" <>
>>>> > Reply-To:
>>>> > To: <>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-NY] HAHN
>>>> > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:04:22 -0500
>>>> >
>>>> > Most of the information I have on the Hahn's begin with Philipp Hahn
>>>> > born
>>>> > in
>>>> > Neisig, Germany in 1840. He was married to Carolina Reiter and they
>>>> > had
>>>> > seven children all born in New York or New Jersey. I also have a
>>>> > number
>>>> > of
>>>> > photos. Don't have any information earlier than 1840.
>>>> >
>>>> > Karen Zubrod Williamson
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Susie Lewis" <>
>>>> > To: <>
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 4:17 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-NY] HAHN
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hi Karen
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Do you have a Johann Friedrich Hahn born 1817 or Johann Martin
>>>> > > Hahn
>>>> > > born
>>>> > > 1795 in your list?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Susie Lewis
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ----Original Message Follows----
>>>> > > From: "Karen Williamson" <>
>>>> > > Reply-To:
>>>> > > To: <>
>>>> > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-NY] HAHN
>>>> > > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:10:19 -0500
>>>> > >
>>>> > > My Hahn's came from Neisig, Germany, now part of Fulda. Philipp
>>>> > > Hahn
>>>> > born
>>>> > > 1840 in Neisig, and immigrated to NYC in 1852. Anybody following
>>>> > > this
>>>> > > line, I have more information.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Karen Zubrod Williamson
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > From: "Grayce Ezarik" <>
>>>> > > To: <>
>>>> > > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:27 AM
>>>> > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-NY] HAHN
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > Quick reply.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > My GGGrandparents immigrated to Rome NY and married 21 Nov 1847
>>>> > > > by
>>>> > > > a
>>>> > > > traveling priest, their witnesses were Mr. and Mrs. Hahn, I have
>>>> > > > searched for seven years but have not been able to trace the
>>>> > > > Hahns.
>>>> > > > Not much to go on. They (Hahns) must have been scarce. I even
>>>> > > > speculated that they came from Germany, Sweisweiler, Rhineland
>>>> > > > Pfalz
>>>> > > > with the GGGs. They were found first off in Oneida, Madison Co.,
>>>> > > > NY,
>>>> > > > he served in Ohio Infantry in CW, but remained living in Mad. Co.
>>>> > > > NY
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Good luck.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Respectfully,
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Grayce in PA
>>>> > > > On Nov 19, 2006, at 5:56 PM, wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >> To the best of my knowledge (which comes from the 1900) census,
>>>> > > >> WILLIAM HAHN, 70 (1829) and his wife , LOUISA, 69 (1830) came
>>>> > > >> to
>>>> > > >> the U.S.
>>>> > > >> from Germany in 1870, so had been here for 30 years, married
>>>> > > >> for
>>>> > > >> 53 years,
>>>> > > >> Louisa was mother of 9 children with 6 living.
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >> In 1900, they were living with son WILLIAM, his wife MARIA and
>>>> > > >> daughter
>>>> > > >> ANNA, 2,
>>>> > > >> in BECKERS CORNER, BETHLEHEM, ALBANY CO., NY. We have a death
>>>> > > >> certificate
>>>> > > >> for old WILLIAM , farmer, dated 1902 and still showing his age
>>>> > > >> to
>>>> > > >> be 70. But
>>>> > > >> we all know how that goes...
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >> The question is "WHERE WERE THESE HAHN'S LIVING FOR 30 YEARS
>>>> > > >> PRIOR
>>>> > > >> TO THIS
>>>> > > >> CENSUS?"
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >> We have searched both the index and actual film of the 1892 NY
>>>> > > >> State census
>>>> > > >> and no Hahn's are listed in Becker's Corner. We have also
>>>> > > >> searched
>>>> > > >> the 1870
>>>> > > >> and 1880 censuses on Ancestry without success. There are
>>>> > > >> limited
>>>> > > >> City
>>>> > > >> Directories for the area and we have searched those as well.
>>>> > > >> WHERE
>>>> > > >> DO WE GO FROM
>>>> > > >> HERE? Perhaps someone on the list will have an idea to pass
>>>> > > >> along, or even be
>>>> > > >> related to them somehow and have the information we are
>>>> > > >> seeking.
>>>> > > >> Any help or
>>>> > > >> suggestions would be so greatly appreciated.
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >> Thank you.
>>>> > > >> Sheila
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >> -------------------------------
>>>> > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMAN-NY-
>>>> > > >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
>>>> > > >> quotes
>>>> > > >> in the subject and the body of the message
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > -------------------------------
>>>> > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>> > > > with the word 'unsubscribe'
>>>> > > > without
>>>> the
>>>> > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > -------------------------------
>>>> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>> > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > -------------------------------
>>>> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>> > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -------------------------------
>>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without
>>>> > the
>>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -------------------------------
>>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without
>>>> > the
>>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>


This thread: