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From: "B Chrisner" <>
Subject: Re: [G-T] Once Again: Books on the German Texans
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:40:01 -0700
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I do have trouble with use of the key board,often hit the wrong keys, this
is not just trying to pass off my failing i do not have the best control
of my fingers,i have m/s, and some times do not look for corrections to be
made but i do keep mr.webster near,
now back to state hood,if i can find the old textbooks i have a school
book,Texas history, that states that Texas had ask to join the union to
join,and the union would allow them to pull out if they could repay the
debt owed the U.S. by (not sure of date) the the paper was not signed
and dated untill after the war was over.
as far as stupid is the stupid folks are what made this country. do not
wish to start a fuss on the net,do not wish to start a fuss over this o the
net,but for your info the Iselitta school dist. ElPasso Texas backed down
on this same issue about about 25 years ago [ not sure of spelling of
school dist. and am to lazy now to look it up, when I find the info I will
post to this site,for now let us not start calling names
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeane Bitterly" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [G-T] Once Again: Books on the German Texans


> Also Mr. Chrisner, Please check your spelling. You sound absolutely
> stupid!!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B Chrisner" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [G-T] Once Again: Books on the German Texans
>
>
> > TEXAS, WAS A NATION AT THE TIME OF THE CIVAL WAR.SHE HAD APPLIED FOR
> > STATEHOOD . THE UNITED STSTED HAD NOT ACCTED ON IT WHEN THE WAR BROKE
> > OUT,THAN TEXAS DID JOIN WITH THE C.S.A. AND FOUGHT WITH THE CONDEFERATE
> > STATES,AT THIS TIME THE STATE WAS STILL A NATION FROM THE GULF OF
MEXICO
> TO
> > CANADIA(SHE WAS NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO HOLD ALL OF THIS LAND BUT IT WAS
> HERS.
> > AFTER THE WAR WAS OVER THE PRESIDENT THAN SIGHNED PAPERS TO ACCEPT
TEXAS
> > AND DECLARIED THE AS A REBAL STATE,READ YOUR HISTORY AND CHECK OLD MAPS
> > ,READ THE CONTRACT THAT WAS DRAWN UP THAT GAVE TEXAS THE RIGHT TO LEAVE
> THE
> > US AT WILL BY PAYING OFF A DEBT,WHEN YOU TELL SOMETHING AGANST A STATE
OR
> > PEOPLE HAVE YOUR INFO CORRECT
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert G. Schulz, Jr." <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 1:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [G-T] Once Again: Books on the German Texans
> >
> >
> > > Most of these books will address German settlement in the original
> > "Austin's
> > > Colony" area -- since that is, after all, where German settlement in
> Texas
> > > started and where the great majority of Texas Germans, after all, did
> > settle,
> > > all arguments to the contrary aside. I know there is a bias here
(which
> I
> > > enjoy) toward the "Prince Solms and Meusebach" and "Fisher-Miller
Grant"
> > > Germans, but they came because the already-settled Germans in Austin,
> > Fayette,
> > > Colorado, and other Central Texas counties called out to them about
the
> > benefits
> > > of the New World. There is nothing particularly magic about being a
Hill
> > Country
> > > Texas German; by and large, they were "late comers." Prince Karl never
> > intended
> > > to start his colonies in the Hill Country, did not consider it until
his
> > Society
> > > instructed him to do so, and even then argued long and loud against
> doing
> > that.
> > > The Hill Country Germans just worked much harder not to "assimilate"
and
> > > therefore did retain, for a much longer time, more of their native
> > > "German-ness." They still do. Go to Doss (northwest of Fredericksburg,
> off
> > the
> > > Hilltop cutoff on U.S. 87) sometime and enjoy the population. Most of
> them
> > still
> > > speak with a distinctive German accent; very few of them can actually
> > speak
> > > German. Go to Comfort and you'll still find a lot of the
"Free-Thinker"
> > spirit
> > > of the city's original settlers. In Comfort you'll also find the only
> > monument
> > > to the Union side of the Civil War to be found in ANY
> formerly-Confederate
> > state
> > > -- other than those that are situated at the national battleground
> sites.
> > >
> > > But, none of the books listed will particularly address Austin County
in
> > any
> > > great detail.
> > >
> > > Verna McDowell wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bob, I appreciate your nice long list of books about German Texas.
> > Thank
> > > > you.
> > > >
> > > > Would you happen to know whether any of these refer to the Germans
> that
> > > > settled in Austin County, Texas. In reading most of the mail, I
have
> > > > discovered most of the people who want info are from the New
> Braunsfels
> > > > area. That is OK, but I was wondering if there was any particular
> books
> > for
> > > > the Austin Co. area.
> > > >
> > > > I do not live in Texas. I moved away in the 1960's and now live in
> NC.
> > I
> > > > visited last fall and found a book at the San Jacinto monument,
which
> > they
> > > > were out of (didn't particularly pertain to Austin co.), but it was
> > about
> > > > German immigrants to Texas.
> > > >
> > > > Verna
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Robert G. Schulz, Jr." <>
> > > > To: <>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:58 PM
> > > > Subject: [G-T] Once Again: Books on the German Texans
> > > >
> > > > > I've posted this list here before, but I suppose I can do it one
> more
> > > > > time. As to where you might find these books, try Amazon.com,
local
> > > > > Texas or city libraries, and bookstores. I know at least two of
them
> > are
> > > > > long out of print...
> > > > >
> > > > > "The History of the German Settlements in Texas," Rudolf Beisele
> (try
> > > > > the Sophienburg Bookstore in New Braunfels)
> > > > > "The Germans in Texas: A Study in Immigration," Gilbert Giddings
> > > > > Benjamin
> > > > > "John O. Meusebach, German Colonizer in Texas," Irene Marshall
King
> > > > > (still available in bookstores in Fredericksburg)
> > > > > "German Pioneers in Texas - A Brief History of Their Hardships,
> > > > > Struggles, and Achievements," Don H. Biggers (also available in
> > > > > Fredericksburg last time I looked)
> > > > > "Roemer's Texas - 1845 to 1847, (or, Texas, with Particular
> Reference
> > to
> > > > > German Immigration and the Physical Appearance of the Country),"
Dr.
> > > > > Ferdinand Roemer, translated by Oswald Mueller
> > > > > "A New Land Beckoned: German Immigration to Texas, 1844-1847,"
> Chester
> > > > > W. & Ethel H. Geue
> > > > > "The Germans in Texas," Glen E. Lich
> > > > > "German Seed in Texas Soil," Terry G. Jordan
> > > > > "Yesterday in the Texas Hill Country," Gilbert J. Jordan
> > > > > "Germans & Texans - Commerce, Migration, and Culture in the Days
of
> > the
> > > > > Lone Star Republic," Walter Struve
> > > > > "The German Texans, from the series, The Texians and the Texans,"
> The
> > > > > University of Texas Institute of Texan Cultures at San Antonio
> > > > > (Hemisphere Plaza)
> > > > > "Memoirs of a Texas Pioneer Grandmother," Ottilie Fuchs Goeth,
> > > > > translated and abridged by Irma Goeth Guenther
> > > > > "Death on the Nueces: German Texans, Treue der Union," Rodman L.
> > > > > Underwood
> > > > > "Texas Tears and Texas Sunshine: Voices of Frontier Women,"
(edited
> > by)
> > > > > Jo Ella Powell Exley
> > > > > "Letters to Oma: A Young German Girl's Account of Her First Year
in
> > > > > Texas," (fiction/fact), Mari Gurasich
> > > > > "Indianola, Mother of Western Texas," Brownson Malsch
> > > > > "European Missions in Texas," John A. Held, A.M., D.D.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob Schulz
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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