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From: Gary Stoltman <>
Subject: Re: [Germans-STL] Emigration travel 1853 - Stuttgart to Lehavre
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:20:20 -0500
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Hi Jack

Sorry, I read the 1853.

Interesting. There certainly were differences in the early 1800s. StL was a
town of only a thousand and the first steamboat, "Zebulon Pike," would not
make it up the river until 1817.

They almost certainly came down the Ohio River from Pittsburgh or many of
the other small towns south of there. This was still a dangerous trip
though. The Northwest Territories, esp. Ohio had active Indian warboat
raiders active on the river. Yours may have been in a flotilla.

The National Road (Baltimore to St. Louis) wouldn't be finished until the
1840s. However, there was a "Cairo to St. Louis Trail" (technically Cairo to
Illinoistown). So, my best guess is the Pennsylvania Highway (Pike) to
Pittsburgh, down the Ohio and up the Cairo StL Trail.

Good hunting

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "JACK NORWINE" <>
To: "Gary Stoltman" <>
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Germans-STL] Emigration travel 1853 - Stuttgart to Lehavre


> Thanks Gary for the reply. I know how travel got better later, but my
> ancestors came over around 1806. They traveled from Germany thru Prussia
> then on a merchant sail boat as passengers, which took 8 months to get to
> USA. Wondering if anyone knew abbout travel from Pa. to St Louis. Did
> most
> take rafts or flat boats down the Ohio River. I cannot find records that
> they might have come to New Orleans then up the Missippi.
> I hope someone has ancestors that traveled around that same time.
> Jack
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Stoltman"
>
>> Hi Jack
>>
>> Most likely traveled by train & water.
>>
>> Trains were running from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh , by the Philadelphia
>> and Columbia Railroad and the Allegheny Portage Railroad as of December
> 10,
>> 1852. They then, most likely, took a steamboat down the Ohio River to
> Cairo,
>> Illinois and the a steamer up the Mississippi to St. Louis
> > through the 'Gateway to the West.'
> > Gary Stoltman
>> Mercerville, NJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "JACK NORWINE" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Germans-STL] Emigration travel 1853 - Stuttgart to Lehavre
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I am searching for information on my gg grandparents, Conrad Joseph
>> > and
>> > Mary Maria (Bische) Nerwein, born in Frankenthal, Phalz, Germany and
>> > married
>> > there in 1805, coming to USA soon after, To St Louis then down to near
>> > present day, Bonne Terre, Mo. Would like to find find travel mode from
>> > Philidelphia to Mo.
>> > Thank You
>> > Jack Norwine
>> >
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