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From: "al davis" <>
Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila GERMANS-TO-PHILA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 8
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:38:49 -0500
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Looking at a map Philadelphia seems to be a little bit farther away from
Sugarloaf than NY, as the old crow flies. It seems to be an almost straight
path to Sugarloaf, PA. Immigrants had no way of knowing which road would be
the easiest to travel and I would imagine they would take what appeared to
be the shortest, easiest road. In 1852 people were still traveling by horse
drawn vehicles and there were no super highways to take them to their
destination. Perhaps the cost of traveling along that route was cheaper too.
When you've left your native land to make a better life every penny counts
in establishing a new home. Make sense? Pat D
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>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: GERMANS-TO-PHILA CHEW PAPERS ()
> 2. Ohls (Robert J. Fenner)
> 3. Re: Ohls (Marie Van Laeys)
> 4. Re: Ohls (Robert J. Fenner)
> 5. Re: Ohls (Marie Van Laeys)
> 6. Re: Ohls (Tootsie)
> 7. Hendrick Pannebecker, Pennypacker family (Eugene Stackhouse)
> 8. Re: Ohls (Marie Van Laeys)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:44:03 EST
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> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila GERMANS-TO-PHILA CHEW PAPERS
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> How to visit the recently launched blog website for the Chew
> Family Papers project, please.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:19:48 -0500
> From: "Robert J. Fenner" <>
> Subject: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <005b01c87baf$b09d4810$>
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> My great grandparents immigrated from Hanover, possibly Nentershausen,
> Germany aboard the Balticus that arrived at New York Port on October 8,
> 1852. Christian, Amelia, Wilhelm and Fredericke OHLS (ELSE) wound up with
> the purchase of a farm in Sugarloaf Township, Luzerne County.
> At that time, would they have needed a sponsor to come into this
> country? One wonders why they arrived through the New York Port when
> heading for Sugarloaf and not Philadelphia. Also, why they would have
> targeted that location?
>
> Bob,
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 07:40:18 -0800
> From: "Marie Van Laeys" <>
> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <000601c87bb2$8da62450$>
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> reply-type=original
>
> Your question regarding passage to New York instead of Philadelphia could
> be
> that a passage to New York was shorted by a week or two and the fare was
> less as well as the Delaware River was very dangerous to travel in the
> early
> years.
> Marie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert J. Fenner" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 7:19 AM
> Subject: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>
>
>> My great grandparents immigrated from Hanover, possibly Nentershausen,
>> Germany aboard the Balticus that arrived at New York Port on October 8,
>> 1852. Christian, Amelia, Wilhelm and Fredericke OHLS (ELSE) wound up with
>> the purchase of a farm in Sugarloaf Township, Luzerne County.
>> At that time, would they have needed a sponsor to come into this
>> country? One wonders why they arrived through the New York Port when
>> heading for Sugarloaf and not Philadelphia. Also, why they would have
>> targeted that location?
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> if any problems please email me at
>> -------------------------------
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>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:58:47 -0500
> From: "Robert J. Fenner" <>
> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <001001c87bc5$e6355dd0$>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> What were the Delaware dangers at that time?
> Bob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marie Van Laeys" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>
>
>> Your question regarding passage to New York instead of Philadelphia could
>> be
>> that a passage to New York was shorted by a week or two and the fare was
>> less as well as the Delaware River was very dangerous to travel in the
>> early
>> years.
>> Marie
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert J. Fenner" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 7:19 AM
>> Subject: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>>
>>
>>> My great grandparents immigrated from Hanover, possibly Nentershausen,
>>> Germany aboard the Balticus that arrived at New York Port on October 8,
>>> 1852. Christian, Amelia, Wilhelm and Fredericke OHLS (ELSE) wound up
>>> with
>>> the purchase of a farm in Sugarloaf Township, Luzerne County.
>>> At that time, would they have needed a sponsor to come into this
>>> country? One wonders why they arrived through the New York Port when
>>> heading for Sugarloaf and not Philadelphia. Also, why they would have
>>> targeted that location?
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> if any problems please email me at
>>> -------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>> with the word 'unsubscribe'
>>> without
>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>
>> if any problems please email me at
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>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without
>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:05:20 -0800
> From: "Marie Van Laeys" <>
> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <000801c87bd7$9452f970$>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> The Delaware was not as it is today and navigation thru areas (I am told)
> was very dangerous.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert J. Fenner" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>
>
>> What were the Delaware dangers at that time?
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marie Van Laeys" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>>
>>
>>> Your question regarding passage to New York instead of Philadelphia
>>> could
>>> be
>>> that a passage to New York was shorted by a week or two and the fare was
>>> less as well as the Delaware River was very dangerous to travel in the
>>> early
>>> years.
>>> Marie
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Robert J. Fenner" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 7:19 AM
>>> Subject: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>>>
>>>
>>>> My great grandparents immigrated from Hanover, possibly Nentershausen,
>>>> Germany aboard the Balticus that arrived at New York Port on October 8,
>>>> 1852. Christian, Amelia, Wilhelm and Fredericke OHLS (ELSE) wound up
>>>> with
>>>> the purchase of a farm in Sugarloaf Township, Luzerne County.
>>>> At that time, would they have needed a sponsor to come into this
>>>> country? One wonders why they arrived through the New York Port when
>>>> heading for Sugarloaf and not Philadelphia. Also, why they would have
>>>> targeted that location?
>>>>
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> if any problems please email me at
>>>> -------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe'
>>>> without
>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>
>>> if any problems please email me at
>>> -------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>> with the word 'unsubscribe'
>>> without
>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>
>>
>>
>> if any problems please email me at
>> -------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without
>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:01:49 -0500
> From: "Tootsie" <>
> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <005f01c87be7$db29f140$>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Indians?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marie Van Laeys" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>
>
>> The Delaware was not as it is today and navigation thru areas (I am told)
>> was very dangerous.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert J. Fenner" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>>
>>
>>> What were the Delaware dangers at that time?
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Marie Van Laeys" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:40 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>>>
>>>
>>>> Your question regarding passage to New York instead of Philadelphia
>>>> could
>>>> be
>>>> that a passage to New York was shorted by a week or two and the fare
>>>> was
>>>> less as well as the Delaware River was very dangerous to travel in the
>>>> early
>>>> years.
>>>> Marie
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Robert J. Fenner" <>
>>>> To: <>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 7:19 AM
>>>> Subject: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> My great grandparents immigrated from Hanover, possibly Nentershausen,
>>>>> Germany aboard the Balticus that arrived at New York Port on October
>>>>> 8,
>>>>> 1852. Christian, Amelia, Wilhelm and Fredericke OHLS (ELSE) wound up
>>>>> with
>>>>> the purchase of a farm in Sugarloaf Township, Luzerne County.
>>>>> At that time, would they have needed a sponsor to come into this
>>>>> country? One wonders why they arrived through the New York Port when
>>>>> heading for Sugarloaf and not Philadelphia. Also, why they would have
>>>>> targeted that location?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>> if any problems please email me at
>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe'
>>>>> without
>>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>>
>>>> if any problems please email me at
>>>> -------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe'
>>>> without
>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> if any problems please email me at
>>> -------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>> with the word 'unsubscribe'
>>> without
>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>
>>
>> if any problems please email me at
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>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:30:19 -0500
> From: Eugene Stackhouse <>
> Subject: Germans-to-Phila Hendrick Pannebecker, Pennypacker family
> To: GERMANS-TO-PHILA-l <>, "yahoo,
> allaboutphilly" <>, "yahoo, germantown"
> <>, ""
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>
>>From ?The Pennypacker Express?, published by Pennypacker Mills, Vol.
>>MMVII. No. 11, March-April 2008
> New Genealogical Find:
> A recently acquired book ?The Works of Jacob Brill?, published in Dutch
> has new facts about Hendrick Pannebecker written in his own hand.
> Pennypacker Mills is at 5 Haldeman Road, Schwenksville, PA 19473.
> www.historicsites.montcopa.org
> Gov. Samuel Pennypacker was a descendant of the early German and Welsh
> settlers of Pennsylvania.
> Hendrick Pannebecker was a surveyor of lands for the Penn family.
> Gene Stackhouse
> Historian and Genealogist and Judge of Fine Beer
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:51:53 -0800
> From: "Marie Van Laeys" <>
> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <003601c87bee$d7d0d700$>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Navigation!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tootsie" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>
>
>> Indians?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marie Van Laeys" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>>
>>
>>> The Delaware was not as it is today and navigation thru areas (I am
>>> told)
>>> was very dangerous.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Robert J. Fenner" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>>>
>>>
>>>> What were the Delaware dangers at that time?
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Marie Van Laeys" <>
>>>> To: <>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:40 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Your question regarding passage to New York instead of Philadelphia
>>>>> could
>>>>> be
>>>>> that a passage to New York was shorted by a week or two and the fare
>>>>> was
>>>>> less as well as the Delaware River was very dangerous to travel in the
>>>>> early
>>>>> years.
>>>>> Marie
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Robert J. Fenner" <>
>>>>> To: <>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 7:19 AM
>>>>> Subject: Germans-to-Phila Ohls
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> My great grandparents immigrated from Hanover, possibly
>>>>>> Nentershausen,
>>>>>> Germany aboard the Balticus that arrived at New York Port on October
>>>>>> 8,
>>>>>> 1852. Christian, Amelia, Wilhelm and Fredericke OHLS (ELSE) wound up
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the purchase of a farm in Sugarloaf Township, Luzerne County.
>>>>>> At that time, would they have needed a sponsor to come into this
>>>>>> country? One wonders why they arrived through the New York Port when
>>>>>> heading for Sugarloaf and not Philadelphia. Also, why they would have
>>>>>> targeted that location?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if any problems please email me at
>>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe'
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>>>
>>>>> if any problems please email me at
>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe'
>>>>> without
>>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> if any problems please email me at
>>>> -------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe'
>>>> without
>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>>>
>>>
>>> if any problems please email me at
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>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
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>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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>>
>> if any problems please email me at
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