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From: The Marx Family <>
Subject: [GILLESPIE] Gillespies in Arkansas
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:41:45 -0500


Hi,

I am new to the list and new to the search for my Gillespie(Gillaspi) ancestors in Arkansas. My father was James Doak Gillespie, b. 2/6/1897, d. 1/8/1998. He was born in Portia, Lawrence, AR. His father was James Morgan, b. 11/13/1857, d. 8/18/1899. He
died in Portia but I cannot locate his buriel site. He was married to Louiza Catherine McMillan (can't find her site either).
I believe James Morgan's father was also named James. The 1880 census shows James Morgan and Louiza in Lawrence County and Elizabeth, mother, age 44, born in Tennessee, living or visiting with them. I think this is James' mother because Louiza listed parents
being born in AL. No birthplace for Elizabeth's parents was listed. James also is listed as being born in Arkansas but parents being born in Tennessee. The surname spelling Gillaspi, which my father had confirmed many years ago, seems to have only been
used at that particular time. Thanks for any help.

Catherine Gillespie Marx

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> GILLESPIE-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 19
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> Today's Topics:
> #1 Unidentified subject! ["Miriam Stefansson" <]
> #2 [GILLESPIE] Re: Unidentified subje [Ron Gillespie <]
> #3 [GILLESPIE] GILLESPIE; Scotland: 1 ["Gayle" <>]
> #4 [GILLESPIE] James Gillespie of Gue [Malcolm Graham <>]
> #5 [GILLESPIE] Re: Unidentified subje [ (Heather Mason-Cla]
> #6 Re: [GILLESPIE] Brick Walls ["owilson" <>]
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> Subject: Unidentified subject!
> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 07:09:54 PDT
> From: "Miriam Stefansson" <>
> To:
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> Hi all Gillespie's out there
>
> I have just joined this list and would like to throw out a question that has
> been haunting me for some time now.
>
> I have an ancestor John Gillespie who married Margaret Thomson in Feb. 1822
> in Polmont Stirling both of whom are listed as being from that parish. I
> have found John and Margaret in the 1841 New Monkland census. John's listed
> age is 45 suggesting a birth date 1796 +/- 1 yr. From GRO I have listed all
> John Gillespies born in the Stirling area in the years 1791 to 1800. There
> is only one birth that fits based on age and the names given to their
> children and this suggests that John's parents are William Gillespie and
> Christian MacDonald. If this is the case, then John also has a twin brother
> Peter. However I cannot prove this definitively.
>
> Is there anyone out there that can suggest where else I might look for proof
> or does anyone else have any of these people in their trees? Is it possible
> that not all births registered are on the on-line GRO site? Any help I can
> get in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Miriam in Winnipeg, Canada
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> Subject: [GILLESPIE] Re: Unidentified subject!
> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 11:11:10 -0400
> From: Ron Gillespie <>
> To:
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> Hi Miriam,
>
> I am sorry, I don't have any additional information that can help you
> but you talked about a web site GRO. Can you provide me that complete
> site address. I am new to this and can use all the help I can get.
> Thank you.
>
> Ron
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> Subject: [GILLESPIE] GILLESPIE; Scotland: 1789-now
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:11:54 -0700
> From: "Gayle" <>
> To:
>
> Dear lists,
> Have new info on my earliest Gillespie family. I am posting it in hopes that
> others are related to this family. I descend from James Gillespie. Please
> contact me if you know of this family.
>
> Descendants of Robert GILLESPIE - 10 Apr 2000
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> Robert GILLESPIE was born in 1789 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. Much
> information on Robert, his children by his first marriage and children by
> his second marriage comes from his Application for Relief dated, 6 Dec 1864
> in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. He died on 2 Apr 1868 in Falkirk Poor
> House, Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. He was a Mason/journeyman in
> Lanarkshire, SCT. He was Widower before marriage to Jean.
>
> Robert GILLESPIE was married to Mrs. GILLESPIE about 1817 in SCT. Robert
> GILLESPIE and Mrs. GILLESPIE had the following children:
>
> 1.1. Janet GILLESPIE was born in 1817 in SCT. She resided in 1864 in USA.
>
> 1.2. Alexander GILLESPIE was born in 1821 in SCT. He was a Laborer in 1864
> in SCT. He was 3 children in 1864 in SCT.
>
> 1.3. Margaret GILLESPIE was born in 1823 in SCT. She resided in 1864 in
> Australia.
>
> 1.4. Millar/Miller GILLESPIE was born in 1826 in SCT. He was a Soldier in
> 1864 in SCT.
>
> 1.5. David GILLESPIE was born in 1830 in SCT. He was a Sailor in 1864 in
> SCT.
>
> Robert GILLESPIE was married to Jane/Jean MELROSE on 16 May 1842 in Falkirk,
> Stirlingshire, SCT. Falkirk Parish 479/13 Microfilm Frame No. 3537. Also,
> according to the IGI, Robert was a widower when he married Jane Melrose.
> Jane MELROSE was previously married to a Mr. MONCRIEFF and had a daughter,
> JANET MONCRIEFF with him. Jane/Jean MELROSE was born about 1817 in
> Edinburgh, Midlothian, SCT. She was a Letter Carrier in 1881 in
> Dennyloanhead, Stirlingshire, SCT. She died on 4 Feb 1900 in Lorns
> Buildings, Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. Death Cert 1900 485/A 42 She Cause
> of death Senile decay on 4 Feb 1900 in Lorns Buildings, Larbert, Stirling,
> Scotland. Robert GILLESPIE and Jane/Jean MELROSE had the following
> children:
>
> 1.1. Catherine GILLESPIE resided with her husband at home of Agnes Dewar in
> 181 in Glosgowin, SCT. She was born on 16 May 1842 in Falkirk,
> Stirlingshire, SCT. She was christened on 12 Mar 1843 in Falkirk,
> Stirlingshire, SCT. Note on the IGI that the Christening is listed by date
> BEFORE the birth date. She was a Domestic servant in 1863 in Glasgow, Dist.
> of Gorbals, Lanarkshire, SCT. She was Applies for poor relief in 1892 in
> Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCT. According to the Application for Relief, she was
> wholly disabled due to supposed insanity. She resided 13 Renfrew Lane in
> Glasgow, Dist. of Gorbals, Lanarkshire, SCT.
>
> 1.2. John GILLESPIE was born on 21 Jun 1845 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT.
> He was christened on 27 Jul 1845 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. He was an
> Iron Moulder Journeyman in 1870 in Glasgow, Dist. of Gorbals, Lanarkshire,
> SCT. He resided in 1881 in Denny, Stirlingshire, SCT. He died on 5 Dec
> 1915 in Lorns Buildings, Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. Death Cert 1915 485/A
> 263 He Cause of death Carcinoma of the liver-jaundice in Lorns Buildings,
> Larbert, Stirling, Scotland.
>
> 1.3. Agnes GILLESPIE was born on 25 Nov 1847 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire,
> SCT. She was christened on 9 Jan 1848 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. She
> was a Millworker in 1864 in SCT.
>
> 1.4. James GILLESPIE was born on 4 Nov 1857 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT.
> Birth noted by mother, Jean Gillespie, IGI census. Birth recorded at St.
> Ninans Parish. He was an Iron moulder journeyman in 1882 in Glasgow, Dist.
> of Gorbals, Lanarkshire, SCT. He resided 370 Cumberland, Glasgow, SCT in
> 1882 in Glasgow, Dist. of Gorbals, Lanarkshire, SCT. He resided
> Stewartfield Pl. in Feb 1900 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. He died on 18
> Jan 1903 in Stewartfield Place, Larbert, Stirlingshire, SCT.1 He resided
> 370 Cumberland St. at time of marriage in Glasgow, Dist. of Gorbals,
> Lanarkshire, SCT. He Cause of death Gastric Cancer, cardiac failure.
> Children from 1891 census index for Denny, Stirlingshire 476/1
> Enumeration Book 6,
> page 37.
>
> Gayle
>
> http://www.olypen.com/gayle
>
> SOURCES
>
> 1. Extract of Entry in Register of Deaths.
>
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> Subject: [GILLESPIE] James Gillespie of Guernsey Co., Ohio
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:46:59 -0500
> From: Malcolm Graham <>
> To:
>
> I'm searching for the ancestry of James Gillespie, born in 1787 in Ireland, came to USA in 1805, and married Agnes McKnight in Fayette Co. PA. in 1809. Subsequently moved to Guernsey Co. Ohio in 1841. Also searching for ancestry of Agnes [Nancy] ancestry.
>
> Malcolm
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> Subject: [GILLESPIE] Re: Unidentified subject!
> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:28:41 -0700 (MST)
> From: (Heather Mason-Clark)
> To:
>
> Hello everyone,
> I haven't seen an answer posted for the question this person asked so I
> will answer. Yes, many births in Scotland were not recorded before
> 1855, it was optional up to that point, and during certain years (I'm
> not sure which year) there was actually a fee (a tax) to the church to
> register births and marriages in the parish registers. That was
> abolished but recordkeeping depended largely on the minister and where
> the person lived. More rural families sometimes only had a traveling
> preacher.
>
> A couple of other points of interest....
> The only records available on line from pre 1855 are Church of Scotland,
> no Catholic, methodist or various other "free" churches.
> Also, ALL the records on line are there because the mormon church, in
> agreement with various government entities, has made the effort to
> microfilm them and preserve the information.. Even the governmental web
> sites and Origins are available because of the Mormon church. And you
> will not find birth and marriage records on those sites as a rule that
> cannot be ordered at a much lesser cost thru a mormon family history
> center. Much more is available there than on line.
> There are other records in Scotland that are not generally available
> except thru the government. Poor law, tax records and wills come to
> mind. Other churches records are available but I think you have to make
> an appointment to go see them, in Scotland. Then peruse the books by
> hand.
> I hope this helps,
> Heather
> great grand daughter of Agnes Wylie Gillespie of Cambuslang,
> Lanarkshire, Scotland
>
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> Subject: Re: [GILLESPIE] Brick Walls
> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:15:26 -0500
> From: "owilson" <>
> To:
>
> Dear Mary, I am having a problem with the FTM file I want to send you. I
> was able to cut out the anscestors on the Stockton file but can't find out
> how to delete the decendants and it is a large file. Just wanted you to
> know that I hadn't forgotten you.
>
> Kittie
>
> >Re the message of Kittie Stockton Wilson:
> >Kittie, I am a different Mary, but you got my attention.

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