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From: "Jeff Coleman" <>
Subject: [GLA] Fw: Evan EVANS and family
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:51:41 +0100
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From: "Jeff Coleman" <>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 7:49 PM
Subject: [GLA] Evan EVANS and family
> This family seem to be in the 1851 Census as lodgers in the household of
> David Thomas in Trehafod, Llanwonno parish.
> The reference is 2457/Folio 033/Schedule 034
> The household ( as from Glamorgan FHS 1851 Census index) is
> David THOMAS Head 33 M Coal Miner b Aberaeron,Cardiganshire
> Mary THOMAS Wife 28 M b Haverfordwest Pembrokeshire
> John THOMAS Son 2 b Llanwonno, Glamorgan
> Evan EVANS Lodger 31 M Coal Miner b Llandybie Carmarthenshire
> Jemima EVANS Lodger 27 M b Llanfabon,Glamorgan
> William EVANS Lodger 4 b Llanfabon,Glamorgan
> The description of the enumeration district is as follows ( from same
> 1851 CENSUS OF LLANWONNO PARISH (TREHAFOD AREA). REF.H.O.107/2457,E.D.1C
> "From Hendrarees to Gloge Fanhaulog, Rhydygwriddin, Llwynperdid,
> Blaenhenwysg, bounded by Henwysg Brook to Rhondda, and
> to Nythbran, Hafod Ucha, and Hafod."
> Glamorgan Family History Society publishes many resources and offers other
> facilities to members. See http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlsglfhs/
> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Llandybie/ and
> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llanfabon/ describe the locations
> couple are said to be from.
> Given that the wife was from Llanfabon, just on the other side of the
> Taff from Llanwonno, it would seem possible that they married in one of
> these two parishes.
> http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/ shows that both parishes were in
> Tydfil registration district from the start of civil registration in July
> 1837 to 1863.
> A possible marriage is in June quarter 1854 reference Merthyr Tydfil 11a
> when Evan EVANS and Jemima PHILLIPS appear among six names on the same
> ( from www.freebmd.org.uk ) It is possible that there might be another
> marriage where the page numbers have been hard to read. This would have
> been after the birth of several children, so may be a bit unlikely.
> However, there is a marriage where Evan EVANS and Jemima WILLIAMS appear
> the same index page in Neath registration district in March quarter 1846,
> ref 26 613 . That matches rather better with the birth of the son William.
> She would also have been 21 or 22 so free to marry without requiring
> parental permission.
> There are two Jemima WILLIAMS of roughly the right age in the surviving
> portions of the 1841 census, one apparently the wife of John Williams,
> Miner in Court Street, Heolwermod, Merthyr with a child Ann aged 9 months,
> the other
> in Penhow Hirwaun, Hirwaun Ironworks, apparently daughter of Morgan
> an agent, with a sister Cesiah (Welsh spelling of Keziah) and older
> Daniel, a collier, and Jane.
> Hirwaun is not far from the boundary of Neath registration district, on or
> close to the road from Neath to Merthyr.
> The reference for this entry is 64 069 159
> The enumeration district is described as "That part of Cwmdare at the
> Hirwaun Iron Works."
> Morgan WILLIAMS was quite a common name. Someone of that name stood as a
> Chartist candidate against Sir John GUEST in the parliamentary election of
> 1841 for Merthyr Tydfil.
> There is a household in Hirwaun in 1951 consisting of Daniel Williams,
> shopkeeper, 30 and his sister 'Kaziah' Williams age 24, both born Rhymney,
> Monmouthshire, with a lodger John DAVIES, 28, Engineer. These might be
> of the above family. The address is one house away from those labelled as
> Penhow Hirwaun.
> Migration of a miner to Adelaide suggests seeking employment in the Burra
> Copper mines, which exported copper ore to the copper works in the Swansea
> area ( including some in the Neath district) in the 1850s.
> Just to get you started.
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> From: "Jeff Coleman" <>
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> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:42 PM
> Subject: [GLA] Evan EVANS and family
>> The following message was received for the list in a format which was too
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>> to me. Thank you
>> list admin
>> Dear List Members
>> I am new to the list and I am having a great deal of difficulty tracing
>> family members before they arrived in Adelaide, South Australia on 19
>> January 1857 aboard the Marion from London / Plymouth. As they have such
>> common names it has been impossible to match them up from the records I
>> They are:
>> . Evan Evans (c 1821-1872) miner
>> . Wife Jemima (Williams?) (c 1825-?)
>> . Address given as Neath, Glamorgan
>> . Son William Evans (c1847-1882)
>> . Son David Arthur Evans (c 1853 - 1900) - my great grand father
>> . Daughter Mary Evans (c1855-?)
>> Can anyone help?
>> Pauline Verwaal-Whtiford
>> South Australia