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------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain GLOUCESTER-D DigestVolume 97 : Issue 42 Today's Topics: #1 GARDNER - long! [Rod Neep <>] #2 GLS;STONE;KINGSWOOD;BRISTOL [Keith Stone <] #3 Glos Surnames [stuart wright <] #4 IGI vs Church Registers [Rod Neep <>] #5 Surname interest - TRULL - GLS. [Wayne Trull <>] #6 GLS surname HEAVEN [Glenn Corbin <>] #7 BRUTON / HEYDEN ["Abbots Technology Ltd." <roger.br] #8 SURNAMES [ (Ron ] #9 FARR; HUGHES [] #10 MABBOTT & variants ["John Mason" <] #11 Re: GLOUCESTER-D Digest V97 #41 [] #12 Gloucester BRUTONs [Mike Bevan <] ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #1 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:40:41 +0000 From: Rod Neep <> To: Erica Hills <>, , Elizabeth Jack <> Message-ID: <$> Subject: GARDNER - long! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In message <>, Erica Hills <> writes >Hi Rod, > >My eyes nearly popped right out of my head when i saw your message to Robert. > >>In article <>, Robert Wilson >><> writes >>>I'd be interested to make contact with anyone researching the Gardner >>>family of Bisley/Chalford Hill. Oh.... !!! Have I got *NEWS* for you!!! Names of people mentioned in this document: (I post the whole thing to the mailing list, as the names might ring bells with other people) Arthur AGG-GARDNER Eulalie Emily AGG-GARDNER James AGG-GARDNER, aka James AGG James Tynte AGG-GARDNER William BOND BOWYER Mary GARDNER John GARDNER Thomas HAMLETT Eulalie NORTHEY William Richard Hopkins NORTHEY Frederick PORTANS PORTLOCK Joseph PRICE PROTHEROE SHORT Rowland James TICEHURST Robert WHEELER WITTS William YOUNG >>Not quite that area... but were you aware of the important GARDNER & >>AGG-GARDNER family in Cheltenham & Charlton Kings.... they were land >>owners and one was a Member of Parliament in the mid 1800's. > >I (with help from Elizabeth Jack and other AGG descendants) am desperately >seeking AGGs. There is a marriage between ggg.uncle James AGG and Edith >GARDNER, and in the next generation in London, a marriage between Caroline >AGG and James GARDNER (he worked in Ordnance Survey). We have never been >able to establish if the two GARDNERs are connected - it is not exactly a >rare name :-) This James AGG changed his name! "James Agg-Gardner by his then name of James Agg (he having afterwards assumed the name of Gardner after and in addition to his names of James Agg" >I will be in Moreton in Marsh on 11 and 12th December. Is anywhere in the >area I could go to find information ? > >With kind regards.......... Erica Hills, Perth, Western Australia. OK.... here's what I know: I used to live in a cottage (one of 13) at Charlton Kings, and when I bought it back in 1979 I obtained the old deeds, and because I had to register the title, I was able to keep the old deeds. Only a week ago I parted with them... to the Gloucester Records Office. I thought that someday someone would come looking for James Agg-Gardner or someone else mentioned in the documents, and therefore I felt that it would be better to have them accessible to all... instead of in my filing cabinet ;-) And within days you come along!! ;-) The deeds show the line of ownership of the cottages back to the early 1800's, but also give some quite interesting information about the AGG & GARDNER families and the "merger". The document makes quite difficult reading following the logic ... typical solicitor's stuff without punctuation ;-) But for your information I transcribed it and kept a copy on computer... Here it is: Enjoy ;-) Regards Rod cc. to Elizabeth Jack ====================================================================== The transfer of the cottages now known as Chestnut Terrace, Charlton Kings, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire (adjacent to the Royal Hotel) from James Tynte Agg-Gardner M.P. to Joseph Price, 2nd May 1876 for the sum of four hundred pounds. ====================================================================== Release and Confirmation of hereditaments at Charlton Kings J. T. Agg-Gardner Esq. M.P. to Mr Joseph Price Dated 2nd May 1876 This Indenture made the second day of May One thousand eight hundred and seventy six Between James Tynte Agg-Gardner of Cheltenham in the county of Gloucester Esquire M.P. of the one part and Joseph Price of Charlton Kings in the said county Wheelwright of the other part Whereas at a Court of the Lord of the Manor of Cheltenham aforesaid holden on or about the twenty fourth day of February One thousand eight hundred and sixty nine the same James Tynte Agg-Gardner who is the eldest Son and heir according to the custom of the said Manor of James Agg-Gardner heretofore of Cheltenham aforesaid Esquire deceased who died intestate on the Twelfth day of March One thousand eight hundred and fifty eight having survived Mary Gardner heretofore of Cheltenham aforesaid Widow of John Gardner heretofore of the same place banker and Common Brewer deceased And which Said Mary Gardner and James Agg- Gardner by his then name of James Agg (he having afterwards assumed the name of Gardner after and in addition to his names of James Agg) were the Devisees in trust under the Will of the said John Gardner bearing date the Thirtieth day of May One thousand eight hundred and thirty three and a Codicil thereto bearing date the Eleventh day of April One thousand eight hundred and thirty five the said Will and Codicil having been duly proved by the said Mary Gardner and James Agg-Gardner in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury on the first day of July One thousand eight hundred and thirty six the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner being also under and by virtue of the said Will and Codicil of the said John Gardner and of a certain Indenture of Settlement bearing date the Twelfth day of October One thousand eight hundred and forty four and expressed to be made between the said James Agg-Gardner of the first part Eulalie Northey Spinster therein further described of the second part and William Richard Hopkins Northey Esquire of the third part equitable tenant in the tail of certain hereditaments of which the hereditaments hereinafter described form part of the equitable estate tail in which was barred by a certain indenture bearing date the Fifteenth day of October One thousand eight hundred and sixty eight and made between the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner of the one part and Rowland James Ticehurst Gentleman of the other part and entered in the Court Rolls of the said Manor was admitted tenant to the said hereditaments To be had and holden unto the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner to his heirs and assigns for ever according to the customs of the said Manor And whereas the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner hath agreed with the said Joseph Price for the sale to him of the hereditaments hereinafter described and the inheritance thereof in fee simple according to the custom of the said Manor of Cheltenham free from incumbrances but subject to the rents and services for the same due and of right accustomed for the sum of four hundred pounds And whereas in pursuance of the said Contract at a Court of the Lord of the said Manor of Cheltenham holden on the day of the date but before the execution of these presents the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner in consideration of the payment to him by the said Joseph Price of the sum of Four hundred pounds amount of the purchase money did surrender the hereditaments hereinafter described To the use of the said Joseph Price his heirs and assigns for ever according to the custom of the said Manor as settled by Act of Parliament and he was admitted tenant thereto Now this indenture witnesseth that in consideration of the sum of Four hundred pounds before the making of the lastly hereinbefore recited Surrender to the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner paid by the said Joseph Price the receipt whereof he the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner doth hereby acknowledge and doth therefore release and discharge the said Joseph Price his heirs executors administrators and assigns he the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner doth hereby release ratify and confirm unto the said Joseph Price and his heirs All that cottage formerly in the occupation of [the said] Thomas Hamlett deceased adjoining to a public House called the Royal Hotel And also All those twelve other cottages now or late in the respective occupations of ..... Protheroe ...... Short, William Bond, ..... Witts, ....... Bowyer, Frederick Portans, William Young, ....... Portlock [first names not shown] and others adjoining each other and situate near to the said messuage or public House which said thirteen cottages and the public house were erected on a piece of land containing three quarters of an acre or thereabouts [in Charlton Kings aforesaid] Together with all hedges [ditches] mounds fences trees ways wells pumps waters watercourses lights and all other rights easements members and appurtenances to the said land cottages and hereditaments belonging or in anywise appertaining or therewith usually held occupied or enjoyed And all the estate right title interest benefit claim and demand whatsoever of him the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner therein or thereto To hold the said hereditaments unto the said Joseph Price his heirs and assigns for ever according to the custom of the said Manor as settled by Act of Parliament And the said James Tynte Agg- Gardner doth hereby for himself his heirs executors and administrators covenant with the said Joseph Price his heirs and assigns that notwithstanding any act or thing by the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner or any of his ancestors done or suffered to the contrary He the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner had at the time of making the surrender lastly hereinbefore recited power to surrender the hereditaments hereinbefore expressed to have been this day surrendered with their appurtenances unto the said Joseph Price his heirs and assigns in manner aforesaid And that it shall be lawful for the said Joseph Price his heirs and assigns at all times hereafter to enter upon possess and enjoy the same hereditaments with their appurtenances and receive the rents and profits thereof without any interruption or disturbance by the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner or any person claiming or to claim through under or in trust for him or any of his ancestors And that free from or by the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner his heirs executors or administrators effectually indemnified against all estates rights titles charges and incumbrances created or occasioned by the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner or his ancestors and in particular against [the payment of] a Sum of Seven thousand four hundred pounds to Arthur Agg-Gardner the Brother of the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner and which has been specially charged on other portions of the Estate of the said John Gardner deceased and to the payment of a jointure rent charge of One thousand pounds a year to Mrs Eulalie Emily Agg-Gardner the Mother of the said James Tynte Agg- Gardner during her life and which said sums are payable under or by virtue of the Will of the said John Gardner and the Indenture of Settlement of the Twelfth day of October One thousand eight hundred and forty four hereinbefore referred to and against any loss damage costs or expenses incidental to or arising from the nonpayment of the same or any incumbrances created or occasioned by any other person claiming or to claim through under or in trust for him the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner or his ancestors And further that he the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner and his heirs and every person claiming or who shall claim any estate right or interest at law or in equity in or to the hereditaments hereinbefore expressed to be hereby surrendered or any of them or any part thereof through under or in trust for the said James Tynte Agg-Gardner or his ancestors will and shall at all times hereafter upon the request and at the expense of the said Joseph Price his heirs or assigns do and execute or procure to be done and executed every such surrender act and deed for further better and more satisfactorily surrendering and assuring the hereditaments hereinbefore expressed to be hereby surrendered and released and their appurtenances unto and the use of the said Joseph Price his heirs and assigns or otherwise as by the said Joseph Price shall be reasonably required In Witness whereof the said parties to these presents have hereunto set their hands and seals the day and year first above written (signatures and seals of) J T Agg Gardner Joseph Price Received on the day of the date of the within written Indenture and from within named Joseph Price the Sum of Four hundred pounds being the full consideration money within expressed to be paid to me by him 400 Witness (signatures of) Robert Wheeler J T Agg Gardner Signed sealed and delivered by the within named James Tynte Agg Gardner in the presence of (signature) Robert Wheeler for Cheltenham Signed sealed and delivered by the within named Joseph Price in the presence of Robert Wheeler for Cheltenham ----- the words "the said" crossed out the words "in Charlton Kings aforesaid" inserted the word "ditches" inserted the words "the payment of" inserted Transcribed by R. K. P. Neep - October 1997 51 St. Whites Road, Cinderford, Gloucestershire. (Owner of 9 Chestnut Terrace, Charlton Kings, in 1980) Original document now in the care of the Gloucester Records Office ====================================================================== -- Rod Neep : Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England: ------------------------------------------------ RESEARCHING: | NEEP (all periods & places) MILLS (Dby) | ------------------------------------------------ | SARDISON >1720 | DENMAN >1800 | WRIGHT >1780 | | JOHNSON >1700 | SAVAGE >1900 | DYKES >1900 | | HOWES >1900 | (all Notts) | ------------------------------------------------ | HAWS/HOWES >1850 (Nfk) | TAYLOR >1880 (Ess) | ------------------------------------------------ ==== GLOUCESTER Mailing List ==== ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #2 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:13:22 -0800 From: Keith Stone <> To: Message-ID: <> Subject: GLS;STONE;KINGSWOOD;BRISTOL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am doing research on the Stone family, I have traced my Australian connections and now I would like to find my English relatives. I am enclosing data that I have found about the family, mainly from the 1881 English census. JOHN STONE Born: 1806 St George Kingswood Bristol England Died: 22 Feb 1890 Stone Villa Kingswood Bristol England Buried: Methodist Church Kingswood Bristol Occupation: Coal Miner&Gardener Father: John Stone Mother: Married: SARAH POWELL 11th June 1827 Bitton England Born: 1806 Bitton England Died: 4th April 1875 Stone Villa Kingswood Bristol England Buried: Methodist Church Kingswood Bristol Father: JOSEPH POWELL Mother: BETTY SWEET Child 1 EMMA STONE Baptized: 13th July 1828 Holy Trinity Church Kingswood England Child 2 MOSES STONE Baptized: 14th March 1830 Holy Trinity Church Kingswood England Residence 5 Sculls Barton St,George Bristol Occupation: Coalminer Spouse: MARY Married: 18?? Born: C1832 Mangotsfield Gloucester England Child 1 BENGEMIN STONE Born: C1857 Pontywonny Monmouth England Occupation: Coalminer Child 2 SARAH STONE Born: C1859 Pontywonny Monmouth England Occupation: Cotton Weaver Child 3 MOSES STONE Born: C1864 St.George Bristol Gloucester England Occupation: Invalid Child 4 JOSEPH STONE Born: C1868 St.George Bristol Gloucester England Occupation: General Labourer Child 5 GEORGE STONE Born: C1876 St.George Bristol Gloucester England Occupation: Scholar Child 3 JOSEPH STONE Born: 11th Feb 1832 Kingswood Bristol England Baptized: 18th Aug 1833 Holy Trinity Church Kingswood England Died 15th July 1904 325 Ryrie Street Geelong Victoria Australia Buried Eastern Cemetery Geelong Victoria Australia Occupation: Railway Inspector Spouse: ANN GOLDING Married: 7th Oct 1855 Bitton County of Gloucester England Born: 15th Dec 1834 Bitton England Died: 18th Feb 1920 104 High Street Northcote Victoria Australia Buried: Eastern Cemetery Geelong Victoria Australia Joseph and Ann migrated to Australia in 1858 they had nine children Anne Maria, Mary Sophia, Frederick John (my grandfather), Charles Edward, Sarah Louisa, Emily Maude, Albert Golding, Charlotte Ada and Ernest Joseph. Child 4 HANNAH STONE Born: 1835 St.George Bristol England Baptized: 26st April 1835 Holy Trinity Church Kingswood England Spouse: JOSEPH SMITH Married: 18?? Child 5 ELIZABETH STONE Born: 1837 St.George Bristol England Baptized: 31st Dec 1837 Holy Trinity Church Kingswood England Occupation: Boot Maker Spouse: HENERY BRYANT Married: 18?? Born: 1839 Mangotsfield Gloucester England Residence 21 Reformatory Lane St.George Bristol Occupation: General Labourer Child 1 ALFRED BRYANT Born: 1861 St.George Bristol England Occupation: Coalminer Child 2 JAMES BRYANT Born: 1865 St.George Bristol England Occupation: Boot Clicker Child 3 SARAH BRYANT Born: 1867 St.George Bristol England Occupation: Boot Machinist Child 6 AARON STONE Born 14th Nov 1839 Two Mile Hill St.George Bristol England Residence: 27 Reformatory Lane St.George Bristol Occupation: Coalminer Spouse: MARY Married: 18?? Born: 1845 Bristol Gloucester England Child 1 LILLIE STONE Born: 1871 St.George Bristol England Child 2 CLARA STONE Born: 1874 St.George Bristol England Child 3 GILBERT STONE Born: 1876 St.George Bristol England Child 4 BEATRICE STONE Born: 1880 St.George Bristol England Child 7 SAMUEL STONE Born: 1845 Bitton Gloucester England Baptized: 25th July 1845 Holy Trinity Church Kingswood England Residence: 6 Magpie Bottom St.George Bristol Occupation: Coalminer Spouse: HANNAH MILSOM Married: 25th Dec.1870 Born: 1847 Bitton Gloucester England Child 1 JOHN STONE Born: 1874 StGeorge Bristol England Child 2 FREDERICK STONE Born 1876 St.George Bristol England Child 3 ALICE M. STONE Born: 1878 St.George Bristol England Child 4 JOSEPH STONE Born: 1880 St.George Bristol England After Sarah died John married DINAH 18?? Born: 18?? After Dinah died John married ANN HAND 6th Jan 1887 at Registry Office Bristol England Born: c1821 Regards Keith Stone ==== GLOUCESTER Mailing List ==== ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #3 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 06:31:01 -0500 From: stuart wright <> To: Message-Id: <> Subject: Glos Surnames Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here are my Glos Surnames. WRIGHT; Westerleigh 1695 BENCE; Marshfield 1800 SIMMONDS; Westerleigh 1750 DYER; Westerleigh 1720 WOODHAM; Marshfield 1775 MATHEWS; Dyrham & Hinton 1750 SLOPER; Dyrham 1700 ==== GLOUCESTER Mailing List ==== ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #4 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:27:11 +0000 From: Rod Neep <> To: Message-ID: <> Subject: IGI vs Church Registers It never ceases to surprise me how innacurate or incomplete the IGI is when it comes to transcripts when compared with the church registers. e.g. MAR M Neep John & Mary SMEDLEY 11 5 1776 (IGI) MAR M Neep John (wid) & Mary SMEDLEY 11 11 1776 (register) MAR F Neep Hannah & Garvis GIBSON 20 1 1784 (IGI) MAR F Neep Hannah & Gervas Gibson HASLAM 20 1 1784 (register) MAR M Neass William & Ann HODKIN 8 12 1831 (IGI) MAR M Neap William & Ann HODKIN 8 12 1832 (register) There are *lots* more examples... that last one I could have missed entirely in the IGI. Moral: if you find it in the IGI... then *always* look it up in the register! Rod -- Rod Neep : Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England: ==== GLOUCESTER Mailing List ==== ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #5 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:24:02 +1000 From: Wayne Trull <> To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Surname interest - TRULL - GLS. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello to all subscribers. I have just started researching the TRULL surname in GLS., primarily 1800-1900, and would appreciate any information that any readers may have come across, however minor, not necessarily in that era either. There may be a connection with the parish? of Uley ( I think that this is the correct spelling )and any advice as to the location of that parish would also be helpful. Thanks, in advance, for any assistance. Wayne. ==== GLOUCESTER Mailing List ==== ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #6 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:29:34 +1300 From: Glenn Corbin <> To: <> Message-Id: <> Subject: GLS surname HEAVEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Rod & list members It seems all the Heavens have died & gone to Heaven. I'm after info on Henry HEAVEN m 17 Aug 1872 in Stroud, GLS Julia Annn MARMONT. He emmigrated to NZ in 1874. I suspect his father was Henry Heaven, mother Lucy Hoskins(?) and he was born on the 28th Nov 1838 at 61 Stone(?) St, Cheltenham. His 2nd child (1st daughter) was Florence Lucy. Regards, Glenn Corbin ==== GLOUCESTER Mailing List ==== ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #7 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:49:01 -0800 From: "Abbots Technology Ltd." <> To: Message-ID: <> Subject: BRUTON / HEYDEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I finally got one of those "round tuits" and made the effort to enter a posting here! (It's my first time here - be gentle with me! :-) ) Gloucestershire is the Bruton equivalent of the source of the Nile, King Tuts tomb, the Holy Grail, the Guinness brewery and the Restaurant at the end of the Universe, all in one spot. Any Bruton info, (yes, any at all) would be grovellingly, almost embarrasingly gratefully received. If you have any connections with BRUTON in the Gloucester/Newent areas, you may find this page full of local VIPs interesting. http://www.abbots.mcmail.com/rb/glos/persons.htm If you have any interest in the name HEYDEN in or around the village of WITHINGTON I would also like to hear from you. Regards, Roger Bruton, Hertfordshire, UK http://www.abbots.mcmail.com/rb/ ******************************** Abbots Technology Limited http://www.abbots.mcmail.com **************************** ==== GLOUCESTER Mailing List ==== ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #8 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 97 13:13 GMT0 From: (Ron Downing) To: Cc: Message-Id: <> Subject: SURNAMES I would be pleased to receive any information with regards to the following. BERRIMAN/BERRYMAN - Bisley to anywhere - 1700 - now BERRIMAN/BERRYMAN - Anywhere to Bisley - pre 1700 BRINKWORTH - Bisley (or surrounding parishes) 1800-1850 BUTLER - Bisley (or surrounding parishes) 1800-1850 CAPNER - Bisley (or surrounding parishes) 1730-1850 DOWELL - Bisley (or surrounding parishes) 1775-1850 HUNT - Bisley (or surrounding parishes) 1775-1850 LIDDIATT - Bisley (or surrounding parishes) 1750-1850 ROBERTS - Bisley (or surrounding parishes) 1800-1850 WEAR - Bisley (or surrounding parishes) 1800-1900 Any occurrences, at any time, of BERRIMAN/BERRYMAN in the parishes of GLS welcome. Cheers, Ron Downing. -- -- ==== GLOUCESTER Mailing List ==== ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #9 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:52:46 -0500 From: To: Message-Id: <l03110700b095fbd24f7c@[206.31.232.36]> Subject: FARR; HUGHES Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi--restating my quests: William FARR b. 1856 Coleford GLS (have found his father William FARR (c. 1829)) Alice HUGHES b.1860 Symonds Yat, GLS (have found parents Emmanuel and Mary?) Any help pushing further back gladly received--have already had some help from Rod and others (including a previously unknown "step-cousin--thanks, Mike!), so the list does work!! And greetings from West Virginia! Stan ==== GLOUCESTER Mailing List ==== ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #10 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:57:07 -0000 From: "John Mason" <> To: "Gloucester Gen-List" <> Message-Id: <> Subject: MABBOTT & variants Hello. I'm new to this list. My Gloucester interest is:- MABBOTT or variants prior to 1805, mainly in Almondsbury but other mentions welcomed. Regards John ==== GLOUCESTER Mailing List ==== ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #11 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:46:02 -0500 (EST) From: To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: GLOUCESTER-D Digest V97 #41 Hi Everyone: I am researching William HOLBROW b. May 1795 who appeared on 1841 census for Avening in Stroud, wife Sarah THOMAS; children: Daniel, Maria, Julet, Sarah, Elizabeth, Lewis, William. William is the son of William and Mary HOLBROW of Wanswell Court in Berkeley. Interested in information on Sarah Thomas as well as William and children. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Joan Antal ==== GLOUCESTER Mailing List ==== ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #12 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:18:16 +0000 From: Mike Bevan <> To: Cc: Message-Id: <v01540b06b096094bee4d@[158.152.40.226]> Subject: Gloucester BRUTONs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" [I'm replying via the list in case the publication I mention is of interest to anyone else] Roger Bruton writes: >I finally got one of those "round tuits" and made the effort to enter a >posting here! (It's my first time here - be gentle with me! :-) ) > /SNIP . . . >Any Bruton info, (yes, any at all) would be grovellingly, almost >embarrasingly gratefully received. Hi Roger, are you grovelling comfortably? Then I'll begin . . . Unless you already have a copy of the booklet "Who's Who in Gloucester 1910", I might be able to help. In that publication, of which I have a dog-eared copy, the following Brutons are listed, each with a brief biog and address, and most with a one-inch black/white photograph: Basil Vassar BRUTON George Norman BRUTON Henry Tew BRUTON Henry William BRUTON James BRUTON (a long biog) James BRUTON, Mrs (nee Butt) There is also a brief entry for Harley BUTT (" . . . a partner in the firm of J.M. Butt & Co. . . . ) in case it's relevant. I have looked at your web site, and can also offer you a brief entry for the Rev. Samuel Richmond ROBERTSON, who is in your list. Additionally, there is a full page Bruton Knowles advertisement. My grandfather, John Forrester Raikes BEVAN, was a director of the Priday Metford flour milling company, close to the Albert Flour Mills, of which James BRUTON was chairman, and I'm sure I heard the Brutons spoken of in my grandfather's house. Next time I telephone my extraordinary Aunt Lilian, who was 95 this year and still remembers every detail of her early life in Edwardian Gloucester, I'll ask her. I'd be happy to photograph the relevant pages and send them to you. I can also scan the photographs and send them to you as email attachments, if that would suit you. Regards Mike Bevan ==== GLOUCESTER Mailing List ====