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From: "ron stone <>" <>
Subject: Re: [Godfrey Lib-H] Fw: [SABR Info] Proquest and Heritage QuestDatabase Access
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:58:04 -0700 (GMT-07:00)


Interesting suggestion I just received via direct email: Check with your relatives. The person who just
wrote me has a g-daughter in blank state with 6 kids. Each has a library card. That library has HQ. Sooo...
partially disabled grandma (the person who wrote) has remote access to HQ via one of her gr-grandkids
card numbers.

Now, do I keep checking for library access near me or do I start reviewing my kinfolk in other places?

Ahhh ... the challenges of genealogy and ethics...

ron

-----Original Message-----
>From: Susan Petersen in Northern California <>
>Sent: Jun 10, 2006 10:41 AM
>To: "ron stone <>" <>
>Subject: Re: [Godfrey Lib-H] Fw: [SABR Info] Proquest and Heritage Quest Database Access
>
>Ron,
>
>Well, you just did my research for me. I was going to check with Sacramento this afternoon.
>
>I was talking about Alameda County. Anyone who works, lives or attends school in CA is entitled to a card.
>
>I'm planning on checking the libraries more locally. If you find something, let me know and I will do the same.
>
>Susan
>Sutter County, CA
>
>Susan
>Sutter County, CA
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>From: "ron stone <>" <>
>
>> Susan,
>> I have to ask... where is this library? I may need to go get a card. I am in
>> Sacramento
>> and when I asked the local city-county public library said they didn't have HQ.
>> Is the
>> one you are talking about close to me?
>>
>> ron
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Susan Petersen in Northern California
>> >Sent: Jun 10, 2006 10:26 AM
>> >To:
>> >Subject: Re: [Godfrey Lib-H] Fw: [SABR Info] Proquest and Heritage Quest
>> Database Access
>> >
>> >Just to keep the facts straight, although I live 2 1/2 hours from the library
>> in question, anyone living, working or attending school in the state of CA can
>> get a card. I would send them a copy of my driver's license, utility bills and
>> anything else, as I am a resident. The only requirement I don't want to met is
>> driving a 5 hour round trip to smile at the librarian for less than 5 minutes.
>> (With all do respect, I do understand the policy, as I work for a gov't. agency
>> myself. I just think it is time they look at there policy.)
>> >
>> >Susan
>> >Sutter County, CA
>> >
>> >
>> >-------------- Original message --------------
>> >From:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> In a message dated 6/10/2006 1:35:08 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>> >> writes:
>> >>
>> >> Sorry, but just about every library requires acquiring their card in
>> >> person. Presenting a photo ID, Picking up card in person (to verify
>> >> identity) Welcome to the era of the Patriot Act!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Maureen,
>> >> It really is more than the patriot act. Most libraries that provide access
>> >> to various databases also have to sign a contract with the companies that own
>> >> those databases. Those contracts have terms that the libraries have to
>> >> agree to, one of which is often that they will only allow access to the
>> >> databases
>> >> to "their patrons". That usually means that in the library, anyone coming
>> >> in to use that library can have access to the database but that in terms of
>> >> remote access the library is restricted to allowing only their registered
>> >> patrons access.
>> >> For public libraries, being a "registered patron" usually means proving not
>> >> only who you are but where you live as most public libraries have some
>> >> definition of service in terms of locality. So they need to see some proof of
>> >> residence.
>> >> For college libraries, being a "registered patron" usually means being a
>> >> currently enrolled student.
>> >> In the case mentioned where the librarian is holding fast to not issuing the
>> >> card by mail I would imagine that she is just abiding by her libraries
>> >> policies. But that those policies also reflect the terms in some of the
>> >> agreements the library has with various companies.
>> >> In some cases, libraries form together as a group to purchase access to
>> >> databases. That joint agreement might also have requirements concerning the
>> >> issuing of any cards.
>> >> Example, we do joint purchasing with 6 other libraries. But... the
>> >> agreement is that only "registered patrons" of each library have remote
>> access
>> >> to the
>> >> resources. Should one of those libraries choose to begin allowing access to
>> >> groups outside that definition they would not be in compliance with the
>> >> agreement and technically could lose their access.
>> >> Now... bet you know more than you ever wanted to know..... What can I
>> >> say... it is 4 a.m. here.....
>> >> Take care - Emma
>> >>
>> >>
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