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From: "Tom Tulloch-Marshall" <>
Subject: Re: [WW1] for the puzzlers
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:53:25 +0100
References: <OF39663E53.DC48BB98-ONC1256A5E.0024A41C@skt.be>


Karel - I've looked at this one on the basis of a May 1917 RFC death, and
got nowhere - to be quite honest the best way of dealing with this would be
to contact CWGC and borrow a copy of the cemetery register (a small fee for
that), or, given where you live - could I suggest a stroll round the
cemetery this weekend ?!

nb - hope no-one with RFC/ RAF connections has seen your message - "seagull"
on a RAF headstone ! - you'll get yourself shot at dawn !

regards
--
Tom Tulloch-Marshall
Great War Military Research

http://www.btinternet.com/~prosearch

>
> ----- Forwarded by Karel Pylyser/SKT on 01/06/2001 08:40 -----
>
> Karel Pylyser
> To: ,

> 01/06/2001 cc:
> 08:39 Subject:
>
>
>
>
>
> hi all,
>
> thsi one is a bit of a puzzle but I do beleive it possible
> to identify.
>
> START = A picture of a standard CWGC tombstone. ( white portland stone ).
>
> Insignia: A Circle with crown on the top.
> In it a bird (eagle ? or seagull ? ) with it's wings spread,
like
> in a soaring position.
> Around it in the circle: the text: PER ARDUA . AD ASTRA
>
> NEXT line:
>
> XXXXX PILOT II
>
> where XXXX stand for : totally unreadable .
>
> J(?) . E . C(?) A L E (?)
> G(?) F (?)
>
> ROYAL AIR FORCE
>
> 2(?) nd MAY 1917(?) AGE : 22
>
> a single cross
>
> Treasured memories. Beloved
> my John Boy.
>
>
> the (?) stands for unreadable. But for the J(?) I can assume it to be a J
> because
> on the bottom of the stone the line goes: " ... my John boy. " . So the J
> would stand for John.
>
> First letter of the surname has a round shape to the left of the letter,
so
> the
> choice is limited to O , Q , G, C .
> The last letter of the surname poses more of a problem: E , R , P , D , F
,
> B , ...
>
> ROYAL AIR FORCE is for sure. ( was this name used during WW 1 ?)
>
> The day of the date of death, again is a problem but the nd behind the
> date limites
> the choice down to: 2nd, 22nd .
>
> The year poses another problem. I read it as a 17 but it could be another.
> Maybe perhaps even WW2.
>
> The picture is taken at ARTILLERY WOOD MIL CEM . in BOEZINGE (
> YPRES )- WEST-VLAANDEREN - BELGIUM.
> but unfortunately CWGC database cannot be searched with cemetery names, or
> am I mistaken.
>
> ANYone with any suggestions, or a lookup in the SOLDIERS DIED CD rom
> (please ?) would be very welcome.
>
> greetings, Karel Pylyser
> Zillebeke, Ieper, Belgium
>
> contact me @: ( at the office)
> ( at home)
> my page @ : www.ypres-salient-ww1-page.f2s.com
>
>
>
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