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From: janice duke <>
Subject: Re: [WW1] Clasp & Rose for 1914 Star
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 17:55:21 -0500
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Hi Ian/Listers,
Just to follow up on Forrest's response, the Imperial War Museum site states
the following:

On 19 October, 1919 it was announced the The King had approved the issue of
a clasp to those already awarded the 1914 Star "who actually served under
the fire of the enemy in France or Belgium" between 5 August and 22 November
1914.

Regards,
Janice
USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Edwards" <>
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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:12 PM
Subject: [WW1] Clasp & Rose for 1914 Star


> My understanding of the qualification for a "Clasp and Rose" for 1914 Star
> is that the recipient had to be "under fire" in the period 5th August to
> 22nd November 1914. While researching the 5th Battalion, Black Watch,
I've
> noticed that hardly any of the men received the C & R, despite the War
Diary
> recording that between the 17th and 22nd November the Companies were
sniped
> at while on night-time trench digging working parties at "A" Lines near
> Richebourg St Vaast. The Battalion was shelled at Estaires on the 22nd
> November and Private David Anderson (the Battalions first casualty) was
shot
> through the shoulder by a sniper on the night of 17/18th November while on
a
> working party. The Battalion medal roll shows Private Anderson apparently
> did not receive the C & R with his 1914 Star. My grandfather, who was
with
> the Battalion during this period, does not have the C & R, but I put that
> down to him possibly being on Brigade Headquarters guard duty or something
> similar. However, I do have a photograph of some of the Battalions
veterans
> at a 60th Anniversary Reunion Dinner in November 1974 which shows four of
> them with the C & R, none of whom are shown as receiving it in the
Battalion
> Medal Roll!
>
> Is there a more specific qualification for this entitlement than "under
> fire" during the period or are the Black Watch Medal Rolls not up to
> scratch?
>
> Ian
>
>
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