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From: John Chapman <>
Subject: Re: [WW1] Gazette Headings
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 23:22:04 +0100
References: <001501c483b5$5c20f700$0e858351@c>
In-Reply-To: <001501c483b5$5c20f700$0e858351@c>

You have to differentiate between the type of a battalion and the
conditions under which a man was serving. It is quite common for any
officer to be serving in any type of battalion but if you refer to the
Army List you will generally find him listed under his type and under
the battalion to which he was attached. For example Capt X ( a regular
officer) might be listed under 1st/2nd Regular battalions and under 7th
(Service) battalion. The service and labour battalions usually had one
or two regular or reserve officers attached plus a majority of temporary
officers. The regular battalions began the war with mainly regular or
reserve men but by the middle of 1917 it was next to impossible to
generalise as every battalion had a mixture of men with all classes of
service.

It is difficult to generalise about the headings used in the gazettes
without seeing the actual text.

Each battalion had its headquarters complement of cooks etc drawn from
its own ranks but the ASC also ran bakeries to supply bases and
hospitals so I would suspect your grandfather served in the 59th bakery
company of the ASC but I have no idea where this unit operated.

Regards

John




In message <001501c483b5$5c20f700$0e858351@c>, caroliona
<> writes
>Hello List
>
> I wonder if anyone could explain the need for the different headings for
>gazetted members of the army. I have been reading through some volumes of
>the St. Georges Gazette, looking for relatives, and I have been somewhat
>puzzled by the use of the headings listed. Regular Battalions, Territorial
>Battalions, Service Battalions, and Reserve Battalions. I realise that the
>latter two were mainly Kitchener's Army men, but why the distinction. I
>know that my father in law was in the 10th N.F. Battalion, a Service
>Battalion, but after being wounded in 1917 he became an officer cadet and I
>find him listed under the Regular Battalion heading. A clerical error I
>wonder? Could someone explain the obvious? I think I may not be seeing the
>wood for the trees.
>
> I have another query, which concerns my paternal grandfather. He served in
>the 59th Bakery ? during the First World War, I know he was stationed in
>Newcastle upon Tyne for the whole period of his enlistment. He was
>according to his record, a partially burnt one, which I viewed at the PRO, a
>regular soldier. Was the Bakery Corps a separate entity such as the Pay
>Corps or was it attached to a particular Regiment. I was told that the
>pensions department could fill in the gaps regarding his service record,
>because he had served more than 6 years, the person said he would be
>entitled to a pension. He had been injured in the course of his duties I
>believe. Is it possible that I could write to the pensions department for
>information about him, wherever they are, is it possible that someone could
>enlighten me.
>
>Regards Carol
>
>
>
>
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John Chapman

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