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From: "Peter Fellowes" <>
Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] Royal Navy death
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:30:49 -0000
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Hello Peter, et al,

Peter sometimes with this sort of research you might have to think sideways.
Don't fall into the trap of reading a couple of statements and coming to a
single conclusion. Sometimes its a case of seeing the trees when your in the
middle of the wood.

>From the information you have provided below [unless you have some other
information not shown here] what makes you think he was in the Royal Navy ?.

The [in part] newspaper quote you give:
"It may be mentioned that the eldest son of Mr and Mrs Wheeler was lost on a
vessel which was torpedoed"

Does not mention he was in the Royal Navy.

The part where his Mother [in Court] states:
"..........in court on a charge of stealing where she states she has two
sons in the army and had lost one in the navy......."

I served for 25 years in the Army and my Mother would always refer to me as
"...........son in the Forces" she never once ever said "in the Army". Could
then his mother mean more generally 'at sea' rather than 'in the Royal
Navy'.

Anyway just a couple of my thoughts might or might not help, be interested
to see what some more knowledgeable members than I come up with.

Regards
Peter Fellowes


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Metcalfe" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 7:59 AM
Subject: [GREATWAR] Royal Navy death


>I am trying to find information on a seaman by the name of A Wheeler who
>died pre July 1915.
>
> His name is on the local parish church war memorial in Flint, Flintshire
> as is his father William Edmund Wheeler who was kia on 26th March 1917.
>
> There is no death report of A Wheeler in the local newspaper but on 2nd
> July 1915 it was reported that his mother was in court on a charge of
> stealing where she states she has two sons in the army and had lost one in
> the navy (her husband had not enlisted yet).
>
> William Edmund's death was reported in the newspaper where it also stated
> "It may be mentioned that the eldest son of Mr and Mrs Wheeler was lost on
> a vessel which was torpedoed"
>
> In the 1901 census the eldest son was Augustus W. Wheeler who was born in
> Silvertown, Essex in about 1894.
>
> His name is not on the CWGC website so how can I find out when he died and
> his service record. I did a search in the National Archives website but
> nothing showed up.
>
> Why do you suppose the CWGC didn't record his death?
>
> Regards
>
> Peter
>
>
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