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From: terrence White <>
Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris/Glen connections inGoochland/Cumberland Co. Great Guinea Cr., VA
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:26:29 -0800 (PST)
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Interesting. So it would seem that these families intermarried more than once.
 
Thanks again,
 
Terry

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, carolbarron <> wrote:


From: carolbarron <>
Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris/Glen connections in Goochland/Cumberland Co. Great Guinea Cr., VA
To:
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 7:37 PM



Hi Terry, yes some of those records have been posted before but I had found that David Harris in those Goochland deeds that had not been posted before & thought his name on a Glenn record was interesting since David Harris is DNA Gp 8 & those Glenn's are supposed to be Gp 6.
 
That Wm Womack is E. W. Wallace's ancestor & her Harris ancestors are Robert Harris/Mourning Glen...Gp 6. 
 
The Thomas Harris of Halifax Co. (in Cumberland record below)....that record was in the Captain Thomas Harris book as belonging to the Thomas Harris of Prince Edward Co. VA; however, that Harris book has some serious errors & a comparison of deed records was done within our DNA Gp 8 to straighten out those errors.
 
Below is a family chart (done on a speculative basis) that was in Kathryn Wiggins' 'Harris Papers' in her Cumberland Co. VA volume.  I've done some research tracking the Wilminton Harris of Goochland in 1746 until he ends up in Lunenburg Co. records in 1750's & in Charlotte Co. VA in 1768 then I lose him, think he went to Granville.  There's a DNA of a Wilmington Harris b 1811 in the "unmatched" & they don't have a record connection to the Wilminton of Goochland/Charlotte Co. but say their Wilmington was s/o John Harris/Eliz. Overstreet m 1789 Charlotte Co. VA.
 

Timothy Harris b. ca 1677 d. after 1726 m. 1697 Elizabeth Womack
Thomas of Halifax b. ca 1698
John b. ca 1700
Sherwood b. ca 1702, son John 
Wilminton b. ca 1704 son Nathaniel
William b. ca 1706
Gillum b. ca 1708 m. Susannah
Agness b. ca 1710 m. William Cawthon
Judith b. ca 1712 m. Holland
Benjamin b. 1714 d. 1759 m. Ann Eppes
Ruth b. ca. 1716
Hester b. ca 1718
Deniston b. ca 1720
 
 
 
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:30:37 -0800 (PST) terrence White <> writes:





And, as I have mentioned earlier, descendants of these same Glenns (Glens) and Harrises (same Harris branch?) were also interrelated in Oglethorpe County, Georgia.
 
Overton Harris, son of John Harris of Virginia and his wife Mary Fielder, married Rebecca Glenn, daughter of Clement Glenn and his wife Susannah Womack, of Halifax County, Va. Clement's mother had been Susannah, daughter of Radford Maxey, also of Halifax County, Va.
 
Members of some of these same families were also interrelated in Goochland, Albemarle, and Prince Edward Counties, Va. prior to the Revolution. I am firmly convinced that it is no coincidence that they were interrelated in both Virginia and Georgia. Other families related via the Fielders were the Ridge, Benge, Lewis, and Terrell families of Goochland and Albemarle Counties, and Surry/Wilkes Counties in NC.
 
Thanks, Carol, for again mentioning these connections!
 
Terry White

--- On Sun, 2/28/10, carolbarron <> wrote:


From: carolbarron <>
Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris/Glen connections in Goochland/Cumberland Co. Great Guinea Cr., VA
To:
Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 7:18 PM


(Benjamin B. Weisiger., GOOCHLAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA WILLS AND DEEDS, 
1728-1736  (Richmond, VA: B. B. Weisiger, c. 1983], p. 134)

p. 248  Deed 18 Sept 1739  James Allen of St. Pauls Parish,  Hanover Co.,
to
James Glen of St. Martins Parish, Hanover Co., for 100 pds.,  1000 acres
in
St. James Parish, on Great Guinea Creek bounded by ridge between  same
and
Horsepen Fork and Capt. Stoner, with all houses, etc.
No  witnesses   Signed:  James Allen
Recorded 18 Sept 1739


Goochland County Virginia, Wills and Deeds, 1736-1742, Benjamin B.
Weisiger III, 1984, reprint 1997 Iberian Publ. Co.
p 51 - Gideon Glen s/o James Glen
p 369 deed 15 Sept. 1740 James Terry of St. James Parish, Goochland Co.,
to Gideon Glenn of same, for 50 lbs, 400a in same parish, bounded by John
Bostick and Great Guinea Creek.
Wit:  David HARRIS, Seth Terry
Signed:  J. Terry
Recorded 18 Nov 1740

p 377 deed 16 Sept. 1740 James Terry of St. James Parish, Goochland Co.,
to Edw'd Mckgehee of same, for 60 lbs, 400a as by patent 10 June 1737,
bounded by said McGehee, Wm Womack, Great Guinea Creek and James Allen.
Wit: David HARRIS, Gideon Glenn
Signed:  J. Terry
Recorded:  18 Nov 1740


THOMAS HARRIS, 400 acs. Cumberland Co. on both sides of Great Guinea
Cr.; adj. James Allen, Land formerly surveyed for John Bostock,
William Wamack, & land formerly surveyed for James Terry; 16 June
1756, p. 13. 2 Pounds.  C&P patents, Vol VI 1749-1762
----------------------------------------
Nehemiah & Gideon Glen sons of James Glen d 1762 Hanover Co. (will below)
Cumberland Co. VA deeds, Great Guinea Creek:
Cumberland Deed Book #2. page 361, 11 March 1758 between Thomas Harris of
County of Halifax and Randol Richenson..of the county of Cumberland 42
pds part of a track of land which was surveyed for David Harris & granted
to Thos Harris by patent 17 Jun 1756. 200 acres at great Guinea Creek by
Wm Womack, Tax tat? Terry. Witness: Nehemiah Glen, Robert Hingers, Moses
Hindgers

Page 477. 28 May 1759 between Philip King of Cumberland & Randolph
Richardson for 6t pds on both sides of great Guinea creek 200 acres part
of a greater tract of 400 acres granted. Thomas Harris by patent bearing
date at Williamsburg 16 June 1756 bounded by Gedion Glen, ?Gehee, John
Pleasants, James Holland

Cumberland Deed Book #4 page 356. 29 Sept 1769 between Randolph
Richardson of the Parish of Southain & P. Nathan Wormock the said
Randolph Richardson for divers good causes & considerations him thereunto
moving for 200 pds. 200 acres by John Fliping who purchased the other
part of the tract which was obtained by patent by Thomas Harris 1756 on
both sides of great Guines Creek. Randolph X Richardson. Witness John
Bartee, John Spearman, Thomas Now or Ward or Word. Oct 23 1769. Lucy wife
of the said Randolph dower rights

Book 3 page 146-148. Randolph Richardson & Richard Richardson 200 acres
left side of Great Guinea Creek by land of Gidson Glen, Edward Gehee,
John Pleasant a part of 400 acres granted to Thomas Harris by letters
patent bearing date of Williamsburgh under the seal of the colony the 17
June 1756 and the said 200 acres of land was conveyed by the said Thomas
Harris to Philip King as will appear by indenture bearing date of 5 April
1758 and recorded in county of Cumberland and conveyed by the said Philip
King to Randolph Richardson by indenture bearing date 28 May 1759 at
court in Cumberland 23 March 1761 (poor copy at bottom of 1st page)
------------------------------
WILLIAM HARRIS, GENT., 76 acs. (NL), Hanover Co; beg. at James Glen's
corner; to N. side the Little River; on the Newmarket line; 24 Mar.
1725, p. 389. 10 Shill.
-------------------------------
Sorry, I don't have a reference where I copied the below James Glen
info./Carol

James Glen, who in 1717-1719 owned land adjacent to the North Anna River
in St. Paul's Parish, New Kent County. He is listed in the Vestry Book of
St. Paul's Parish from 1719-1724, in connection with John Glenn. In
1725-1731 he owned land further upstream along the same (North Anna)
river, in Hanover County. He is probably the same James of St. Martin's
Parish, Hanover County , who purchased land in 1739 on Great Guinea
Creek, St. James Pa rish, Goochland County (southeast of Hanover), an
area that later became Cumberland County. He left a will in 1762 in
Hanover County naming wife Hannah (maiden name probably Thompson) and
children:

1. Will dated 22 June 1762, Proven 3 Feb. 1763 in Hanover Co. Court.
("The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography" Vol. 47, p. 16 -
Hanover County probate records were destroyed, but a copy of James
Glenn's will survived because it had been forwarded to Abbeville Co., S.
C. in 1822 to be used as evidence in a court case in which some of his
grandchildren were involved. Since the copy had been certified in 1822 by
the clerk of the court of Hanover Co., it has been accepted as valid by
the Virginia State Library in which it is located under Accession No.
21376 (Further reference: "Union County, S. C. Heritage, Family #234" -
Cooper Library at Clemson University, Clemson, S. C.)

Last Will and Testament of James Glenn b. 1700 11 June 1762: Will of
James Glenn, Hanover County. Photocopies from "The Virginia Magazine of
History and Biography", Vol. l47, p.16.

Text of Will: (All original spelling left intact)

"In the name of God amen the 11th day of June 1762, I James Glen of Saint
Martin's Parish in the County of Hanover being praised be God, of a sound
mind and memory do make this my last will and Testament.

Item - I give to my son GIDEON GLEN all that part of my estate, as is at
present in his possession to him.
Item - I give to my son NEHEMIAH GLEN 300 acres of land on the upper side
of Great Guinea Creek, including the plantation whereon he now liveth and
bounded as by a plan drawn by ROBERT HARRIS to him and his heirs forever;
together with all that part of my estate he hath now in his possession.
Item - I give to my son NATHAN GLEN 350 acres of land in Cumberland
County on both sides the double horsepen branch, including the plantation
whereon he now liveth and bound as by a plan drawn by ROBERT HARRIS
together with one half of the hogs and cattle the said Nathan received on
the plantation, and three-fourths of the increase of the said hogs and
cattle, and all the rest of my estate that is in his possession excepting
a negro man named Pompey and a negro girl named Nan, to him and his heirs
forever.
Item - I give to my son JAMES GLEN 350 acres of land in Cumberland County
on the upperside of Great Guinea Creek, bounded as by a plan drawn by
Robert Harris, and the sum of L35 current money and that part of my stock
of hogs and cattle that is in the hands of my son Nathan Glen, to him and
forever.
Item - I give to my daughter GEMIMA SYMES all that part of lmy estate as
is in her possession to her and her heirs forever.
Item - I give to my granddaughter FRANCES HARRIS one negro boy names
Daniel when she shall arrive at the age of 18 yrs. of marreys.
Item- I give to my granddaughter JUDE HARRIS one negro boy names Charles
when she shall arrive to the age of 18 yrs. or marreys.
Item - I give to my granddaughter ANNA GLEN HARRIS one negro girl named
Nan when she shall arrive to the age 18 yrs. of marreys.
Item I have to my granddaughter MOLLY GLEN HARRIS one negro boy named
Dick when she shall arrive to the age 18 yrs. or marreys.
Item - I give to my grandson PETER HARRIS one negro girl named Jenny.
Item - I give to my grandson TYRE HARRIS one negro boy named Harry.
Item - my will and desire is that if either of my grandchildren that is
to say, Frances Harris, Jude Harris, Anna Glen Harris, Molley Glen
Harris, Peter Harris and Tyre Harris should before they arrive to lawful
age of Marryes have the misfortain to lose their negro given as before,
the loss to be made up out of the increase of Bess, if any, the Mother of
the said negroes but if their should be no loss then the said negro women
named Bess and her future increase should be sold, and the money arising
by such sale to be equally devided between my six Grand Children that is
to say (here he names the above grandchildren again).
Item - I give to my daughter HANNAH AUSTIN L5 current money
(pounds sterling)
Item - I give to my daughter MARY HOPKINS, all that part of my fore
estate she had already Received.
Item - I give to my daughter ELIZABETH BYASS L40 current money. (pounds
sterling)
Item - I give to my daughter ANNA GLEN, my best feather bed and furniture
one good Cow and Calf and one pound ten shillings current money.
Item - I lend to my loving wife HANNAH GLEN after the payment of my just
debts and the Legacies in this will given, the plantation whereon I now
live and four negroes, named Pompy, John, Nan and Sarah and all my person
estate not before given during her natural life and after her decease my
will is that my daughter ANNA GLEN should have one negro woman named
Sarah to her and her heirs forever, then the rest of my estate together
with the land and plantation whereon I now live to the same of what kind
soever to descend to my son THOMPSON GLEN and the heirs of his Body
lawfully begotten forever.
Item - my will and desire is that if my son THOMPSON GLEN should die
without lawful issue that then the estate lent to my loving wife and
given to both real and personal shall be sold by my executors and the
money arising from such sale to be equally divided amongst all my
children except'g my Daughters KEZIAH HARRIS and SARAH DABNEY, who have
already had their part of my estate.

Lastly, I nominate constitute land appoint my sons GIDEON GLEN, NEHEMIAH
GLENN and NATHAN GLEN to be the Executors of this my last will and
testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal the
day and year before written.
s/his
James (X) Glen
mark
Signed sealed and published in the presence of Mary Gilbert, Anna Gilbert
and Henry Gilbert


At a court held for Hanover County on Thursday the 3d day of February
1763 This last will and testament of JAMES GLENN, decd. was offered to
proof by GIDEON GLENN on of the Exrs. therein named and defered for want
of the witnesses thereto. And at a Court held for
the said County on Thursday the 3d day of March next following the said
will was proved by the oath of Henry Gilbert, Gent., Mary Gilbert and
Anna Gilbert, the said witnesses and
submitted to record. And at a Court in the year aforesaid, the said will
was proved by the oath of GIDEON GLENN and NEHEMIAH GLEN two of the
Executors thereto.

Test
April 1st 1822 William Pollard D.C.H.C.
A copy teste Tho. Pollard D.C.H.C.

Virginia, Hanover County to wit: I William Pollard Clerk of the Court of
the said County do hereby certify that the foregoing transcript is a true
Copy from the records of the said County Court of Hanover.

In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and applied the Seal of
the said County the first day of April 1822.
/s/ William Pollard

As presiding justice of Hanover County, State of Virginia, I do hereby
certify that William Pollard, who has signed and sealed the above
certificate as Clerk of the said County of Hanover - is duly qualified as
such, and to all his official acts as Clerk, full faith and credit is due
and ought to be given.

/s/ Jno. Tinsley (S.S.)

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