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From: "Sharman Ramsey" <>
Subject: Re: [HARTWELL] Lydia Hartwell and Hartwells of Virginia
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:30:59 -0600
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Juliet Hartwell Palmer was my ancestor. One of her descendants, Dr. Thomas
W. Palmer, was written up in the Dictionary of Alabama Biography (p. 1316).
Of his genealogy he stated:
"Thomas Waverly Palmer, college president, was born May 19, 1860, at Snow
Hill, now Furman, Wilcox County; son of Dabney and Martha Ann (Simpson)
Palmer, the former a native of Snow Hill, where he lived until 1890 when he
moved to Carson, Washington County and served as a member of the
constitutional convention of 1901; grandson of Stephen and Juliette
(Hartwell) Palmer, of near Alton, Halifax County, Va., who moved in 1833 to
Snow Hill, the latter a descendant of Sir John Hartwell, first American
ancestor, who was knighted for bravery under Queen Elizabeth."

I have been seeking confirmation of this information and would appreciate
any clues anyone has.

An internet genealogist shared this information with me:

Descendants of Israel Hartwell





Generation No. 1



1. ISRAEL1 HARTWELL He married HANNAH.



Notes for ISRAEL HARTWELL:

Will, bequeathing slaves, was made Dec. 10, 1796 in Brunswick County.



Children of ISRAEL HARTWELL and HANNAH are:

2. i. PAUL2 HARTWELL, REVOLUTIONARY WAR CAPTAIN, b.
1742; d. 1804, Rutherford City, Tennessee.

ii. JOHN HARTWELL.

iii. JAMES HARTWELL.

iv. ELIZABETH HARTWELL.

3. v. RICHARD HARTWELL.





Generation No. 2



2. PAUL2 HARTWELL, REVOLUTIONARY WAR CAPTAIN (ISRAEL1) was born 1742, and
died 1804 in Rutherford City, Tennessee. He married MARY HARRISON?.



Notes for PAUL HARTWELL, REVOLUTIONARY WAR CAPTAIN:

Will bequeathing negroes was made in 1804. He was a captain in the
Revolutionary War, July 28, 1777.



Children of PAUL HARTWELL and MARY HARRISON? are:

4. i. ARMSTIEAD3 HARTWELL, b. 1775, Brunswick City,
Virginia; d. November 23, 1852, Tennessee.

5. ii. HARRISON HARTWELL, b. February 18, 1779; d. 1856.

iii. NANCY HARTWELL.

iv. SARAH ELIZABETH HARTWELL.



3. RICHARD2 HARTWELL (ISRAEL1) He married SUSANNAH.



Notes for RICHARD HARTWELL:

He, with his brother Paul, gave aid (supplies) to the American Revolution in
1782.



Children of RICHARD HARTWELL and SUSANNAH are:

i. POLLY3 HARTWELL.

ii. ANNE HARTWELL.

iii. BETSEY HARTWELL.

iv. JOHN HARTWELL.

v. EMANUEL HARTWELL.

vi. PASCHAL HARTWELL.

vii. EDMOND HARTWELL.

viii. LITTLEBERRY HARTWELL.





Generation No. 3



4. ARMSTIEAD3 HARTWELL (PAUL2, ISRAEL1) was born 1775 in Brunswick City,
Virginia, and died November 23, 1852 in Tennessee. He married MARTHA ANN
GHOLSON December 26, 1796 in by Aaron Brown Methodist, daughter of THOMAS
GHOLSON and JEANY PERRY. She was born 1777 in Brunswick City, Virginia.



Children of ARMSTIEAD HARTWELL and MARTHA GHOLSON are:

6. i. JULIET4 HARTWELL, b. December 15, 1797; d.
October 25, 1850, Furman, Wilcox Co. Al..

ii. ALFRED HARTWELL, b. 1798; d. 1835, Tennessee; m.
ELIZA H. BASS, January 29, 1827, Brunswick City, Virginia; b. 1800.

iii. CATHERINE HARTWELL, b. 1810; d. Tennessee; m.
BAILY W. FARMER, Rutherford City, Tennessee; d. 1811, Tennessee.

iv. JOHN A. HARTWELL, b. 1818.

v. EVELINA HARTWELL, b. 1801, Brunswick Co.
Virginia; d. Brunswick Co., Virginia; m. STITH RICHARDSON, October 12,
1818; d. 1850.

vi. MARTHA ANN HARTWELL, b. 1807; d. Aft. 1880,
Tennessee; m. EDWARD FISHER, December 08, 1823, Murfreesboro, Tennessee; b.
1800; d. September 10, 1868.



5. HARRISON3 HARTWELL (PAUL2, ISRAEL1) was born February 18, 1779, and died
1856. He married REBECCA J. LIGHTFOOT October 07, 1810.



Notes for HARRISON HARTWELL:

His will made in 1855 bequeathed 12,300 to his son Harrison,; 10,333 to his
son Charles Paul; 13, 080 to his daughter Saphronie Lundy, 12,790 to his
daughter Antoinette C. Rowlings; $700 to his daughter Mary; 8,000 to his son
Horace; and 9,000 to his son John A, all in cash, land and slaves. this was
less than a third of his estate. An inventory of Rebecca J's estate in 1874
amounted to $145, 840



Children of HARRISON HARTWELL and REBECCA LIGHTFOOT are:

i. HARRISON JERARD4 HARTWELL, b. August 16, 1820.

ii. CHARLES PAUL HARTWELL.

iii. SAPHRONIEA JANE HARTWELL.

iv. HENRIETTA VIRGINIA HARTWELL.

v. ANTOINETTE CLACK HARTWELL.

vi. MURTIS ANTOINETTE HARTWELL.

vii. HORACE HILLIARD HARTWELL.

viii. MARY REBECCA HARTWELL.

ix. JOHN ALGERNON HARTWELL.





Generation No. 4



6. JULIET4 HARTWELL (ARMSTIEAD3, PAUL2, ISRAEL1) was born December 15,
1797, and died October 25, 1850 in Furman, Wilcox Co. Al.. She married
STEPHEN PALMER May 22, 1820 in Alton,near Halifax Co. Virginia, son of
CHILIAN PALMER and MARY PETTUS. He was born August 23, 1792 in Charlotte
County, Virginia, and died June 03, 1848 in Furman, Wilcox Co. Al..



More About STEPHEN PALMER:

Fact 1: Will book 325 Haifax Co. Virginia

Fact 2: National DAR 140436 and #50860 SOR

Fact 3: History of Halifax Co., Va, p. 235 by Carrington

Fact 4: , Landon C. Bell

Fact 5: Wills: Palmer, Stephen, Wilcox County

Fact 6: Wills 2 1832-1850, 306

Fact 7: Missionary Baptist, like Kedar Hawthorne

Fact 8: Came to Alabama about 1825



Children of JULIET HARTWELL and STEPHEN PALMER are:

i. CATHERINE5 PALMER, b. September 24, 1831,
Halifax County, Virginia; d. September 13, 1916, Monterey, Mount Moriah
Cemetery, Butler County, Alabama; m. LEWIS JACKSON KNIGHT; b. August 19,
1829, Monterey, Butler Co., Alabama; d. August 11, 1863, Monterey, Mount
Moriah Cemetery, Butler County, Alabama.



More About CATHERINE PALMER:

Fact 1: mentioned will book 325 Halifax Co. Va.

Fact 2: tombstone Palmer Cemetery, Furman, Al



Notes for LEWIS JACKSON KNIGHT:

The History of Butler County, p. 123.



ii. OSCAR COMELLON PALMER, b. May 25, 1821; d.
September 17, 1836.

iii. JOHN PALMER, b. November 14, 1822.

iv. EVALINE PALMER, b. December 22, 1825; d.
Greenville, Alabama; m. JOHN PERRY MCKEE.

v. MARTHA ANN PALMER, b. March 18, 1827; m. JAMES
LAWRENCE BENSON.



More About JAMES LAWRENCE BENSON:

Fact 1: postmaster Snow Hill



vi. JULIA ANN PALMER, b. March 24, 1829.

vii. WILLIAM PALMER, b. August 23, 1830; m. RACHEL
BRADLEY.

viii. STEPHEN PALMER, b. December 23, 1833; d. November
17, 1834, buried at Dabney Palmer, Sr.'s place (T.A.Watson home 1916).

ix. DABNEY PALMER, b. August 17, 1834, Furman,
Wilcox Co. Ala; d. August 25, 1905, Washington Co. Al; m. (1) MARTHA ANN
SIMPSON; b. 1840, Wilcox County; d. 1867, Wilcox Co. Ala; m. (2) LISETTE
MERKAL.



Notes for DABNEY PALMER:

History of Alabama, p. 713.



Dabney Palmer was born in Alabama. He had a crippled foot and was rejected
from service as a soldier in the Confederate army, but he served the cause
by developing salt mines and keeping the army supplied with salt, for which
he would not accept one cent. On the contrary, he paid all the costs of the
operations of the mines--a shining distinction from the profiteers of all
wars. He was a member of the State Legislature and was one of the
influential facts in the Constitutional Convention of 1900.



More About DABNEY PALMER:

Fact 1: member of last Constitutional Convention representing two or three
counties



x. ISABELLA PALMER, b. June 16, 1837; d. May 30,
1839.



Sincerely,

Sharman Ramsey

----- Original Message -----
From: "betty.owen" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [HARTWELL] Lydia Hartwell


> Lydia,
> There seems to be 2 families of hartwells in VA one came from 2
brothers
> Who was John Hartwell and "William Hartwell ---- these brothers came from
> England and John served in the government and William was an officer John
> had no surviving children as I recall and went back to England to spend
his
> last days and there is a will on him ----- also William married and
> married well and I believe his children inherited..... William was apart
of
> the suppressing of the Bacon uprising and there is a written account of
> charges against him....
>
> Another group of Hartwells came over about 1750 or so and it seems to be a
> father and son I am not sure the son was born over here or not Israel
> Hartwell---Paul his son and one of Paul's sons Armstead is my ggggrand
> father this family is document at the DAR. Paul and Israel and armstead
all
> have wills to trace back ..... someone seems to have found that Israel
came
> over from Scotland about 1742 but this is not a Scottish name -and I have
> never found any documentation on it --- the Hartwell name comes out of
> Buckinghamshire... in England so if your ancestor is coming out of VA look
> at these two families ---I have never made a connection between the 2 but
> that does not mean there is one or that group up in Mass.
> Betty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: slvrfx <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:51 PM
> Subject: [HARTWELL] Lydia Hartwell
>
>
> > I am searching for information on Lydia Caroline Hartwell's(b.1847 KY)
> parents,siblings and ancestors. She is my gggrandmother She married
Jessie
> O'Gwin in KY abt 1867. I descend from their son William H. O'Gwin b.KY
> 1868. I came across information saying her name was Shelton, but when I
> received her funeral records it states her father was William Hartwell of
VA
> and her mother Mary Thorp/Tharp of KY. Any help appreciated.
> >
> > Kathy
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