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From: Pan Michael Subritzky-Kusza <>
Subject: Re: In mama's arms
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 05:29:30 +1200


Dear Paul,

Remember this reference and Encyklopedia, as it clearly sets the president
that you were seeking. Many thanks to Leon.

Warmest regards,

Michael

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At 09:49 03-08-00 -0400, you wrote:
>While checking Mr. de Nowina's citation, I came across this in Bruckner's
Encyklopedia staropolska (v.1, p.436):
>
>"Mimo nadzwyczajnego cennienia klejnotu zdarzylo sie, ze herby zmieniano:
maz nazwal sie od posiadlosci zony i jej herb przybieral, czesciej syn od
posiadlosci matczynej sie nazywal. Zreszta nie bylo w zwyczaju, zeby
szlachcic nosil sie z herbem; pisal i nazywal sie zawsze np. Waclaw Potocki
i nie dodawal Sreniawa, tak samo jak Potoccy Pilawici Pilawy nie wymieniali;
podobnie bez herbow pisal sie Jan Kochanowski czy Zamoyski."
>
>"In spite of the extraordinary reverence for the escutcheon, it happened,
that coats of arms were changed: a man named himself after the property of
his wife and assumed her coat of arms. More often, a son named himself
after his mother's property. Moreover, it was not the custom for a nobleman
to flaunt his escutcheon. He always signed as, or called himself, for
example, "Waclaw Potocki," without adding "Sreniawa," Just as the Potockis
of the Pilawa Clan didn't mention Pilawa. Similarly, Jan Kochanowski or
Zamoyski signed their names without coats of arms."
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