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From: "Leon Stevens" <>
Subject: Re: Gear at Grunwald
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:32:50 -0500


Bruckner (p.32) says that "stajnia" ("stall/manger") was earlier "stanie" related to Common Slavic "*stati" ("stand") and "stan" ("a place to stand"), a nd still earlier from Indo-European "*sthana" ("place"). He says (pp. 93-94), that "dom" is an "ancient Slavic word" from Indo-European "*dama" ("something built"). Bruckner also suggests that "chleb" is borrowed from German, but he is mistaken. He himself indicates (p.179), that it is cognate with Lithuanian "klepas" ("gift" (of bread)). In fact it is cognate with Polish "klepac" ("to tap or pat" from Common Slavic "*kliepati" (also "to tap or pat" more at "to knead." "Chleb" belongs to a family of words early influenced by Czech, such as "druh" ("companion"), which early eclipsed Polish "drog" ("dro'g") ("dear one")). Occasionally, Bruckner who wrote his name with an "umlaut" over the "u," even in works in Polish, tends to see etymology through German eyes.

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My philological knowledge of philology is also derivative and it does
seem quit a leap from "haus" to "dom". "Stall" ("der Stand" in modern
German) to "stajenny" seems much less so and the word that was
borrowed for bread was that for loaf ("der Laib" in modern German)
rather than "brot". The modern German word "Dom" means "cathedral;
dome, cupola". A layman's guess would say that this word came from
Latin but perhaps the word was passed on to the Slavs. I seem to
recall that we have the word "beer" from Sumerian!
Remember, the borrowings were from Old Germanic to Common or Old
Slavic and German and Polish have moved on from their respective
roots. My source was Gijmbutas as cited by Mallory.
Cordially,
John (Rohde).
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:52:03 -0000, you wrote:



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