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From: "Leon Stevens" <>
Subject: Re: Celestial Horse statue in Lodz
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 09:48:09 -0400


All of this is true, and I would only add, that western US cattle brands often bear a close resemblance to Asian tamgas through sheer coincidence. It's inevitable, that simple combinations of intersecting curves, lines and dots will resemble each other even if they evolve completely independently in totally different cultures.

>>> "Boris Jivoult" <> 05/05/01 06:15AM >>>
Concerning the cavalry, we must not forget that the horses were present in
west from the earlier prehistory (From cave paintings to Solutre rock) and
that BC the German (Goths from Baltic ?) cavalry was used by Cesar himself
against "Galli" who had a good one too. (All that before the Huns.)
Some Celtic coins and Roman "bas -reliefs" represent Celtic horsemen in a
very close way to your Lithuanian Knight !
Concerning the Tamgi, their "universal family aspect" certainly comes from
common technical reasons of wood, bone or stone (quick) carving :
the same (simple) gesture/cause induces the same (geometrical/abstract)
result.

B.J.

----- Original Message -----
From: Geoffrey Vasiliauskas <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: Celestial Horse statue in Lodz


> I don't know, I thing the Lituanica might be wrong despite what common
sense
> says about knights and chivalry emanating from Western Europe. Horses came
> from the east and I think the motif might have arrived on horseback from
> there too.
>
> There are better images available of the same thing, but there are 2
> examples of a Bulgharian "Vytis" at:
> http://members.bitex.com/tangra/kalenden.htm#m3to699
>





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