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From: Steve <>
Subject: Re: [HM-C&E] Extra customs officer
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:46:40 +0000
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Hi Ray,

Records are held in the UK National Archives at Kew in London (I know
this isn't of great use to you!). There are records of Established staff
(Ages & Capability Books), but the ones I've seen don't cover Extra Men.
I have not worked forward as far as 1881, but so far the only reference
I've found to them is in Correspondence. Retained Customs records are
very variable, depending on date and location. I doubt whether you would
find date or place of birth, unless he later became permanent.
Possible places to assist (other than the National Archives) may be the
Customs Museum at Liverpool (for info about the work he carried out) or
the Liverpool Records Office.

As far has how they were employed, at Cowes it seems to have been word
of mouth and seamanship ability.

Steve Holden
Customs Cowes History
http://www.customscowes.co.uk

Ray Lewis wrote:
> G'day Steve
>
> Thanks for the information. It has cleared up one of the problems we have
> with this ancestor except now we'd love to know how these 'extra' customs
> officers were employed originally and if there are any records of the
> individual employed. Because he was born in Ireland we have, to date, not
> any idea where he came from. If there are employment records, they might
> give place and date of birth which would be really useful.
>
> Regards
> Ray Lewis
> Hazelmere Western Australia
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> An 'Extra' was an officer who was employed as and when required, he was not
> part of the Establishment of a Port and was paid on a daily basis.
> As for the 'C S Mess' I assume this was a location somewhere within
> Liverpool Docks, possibly somebody like the Liverpool Record Office may be
> able to help with the location.
>
> Steve Holden
> Customs Cowes History
> http://www.customscowes.co.uk
>
> Ray Lewis wrote:
>
>> G'day All
>>
>> My wife has an ancestor at Toxteth Park, Liverpool who is described on
>> the
>> 1881 Census as "Extra Customs Officer C S Mess". Does anyone have any
>> idea what this means? We'd be interested to know.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Ray Lewis
>> Hazelmere Western Australia
>>
>>
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