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From: Bill and Lisa Monfredo <>
Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Re: HUNGARY-D Digest V00 #175
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:57:06 -0500
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Hi everybody. I'm fairly new on this listserve. Question: Isn't the digest
supposed to be a daily thing? I often get it three times a day.
Lisa Yacso Monfredo

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> HUNGARY-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 175
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> Today's Topics:
> #1 [HUNGARY-L] unsubscribe [Sharon Vargo <>]
> #2 [HUNGARY-L] KOMAROMI & GRILL [Chele Commons <>]
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> Subject: [HUNGARY-L] unsubscribe
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 12:19:00 -0500
> From: Sharon Vargo <>
> To:
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> At 02:21 AM 5/10/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >HUNGARY-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 173
> >
> >Today's Topics:
> > #1 [HUNGARY-L] Re: HUNGARY-D Digest V ["Cornel von Berwald"
> <]
> > #2 [HUNGARY-L] Places help - some com ["Julian Hallai"
> <.]
> > #3 [HUNGARY-L] Postcards []
> > #4 RE: [HUNGARY-L] Postcards ["Robert S. Helfer"
> <]
> > #5 [HUNGARY-L] Re: {not a subscriber} ["Suzanne J"
> <]
> > #6 [HUNGARY-L] Queries and Replies ["Suzanne J"
> <]
> > #7 [HUNGARY-L] Re: census microfilms [Lisa Perkins
> <]
> > #8 Re: [HUNGARY-L] Queries and Replie [Joseph J Jarfas
> <.]
> > #9 Re: [HUNGARY-L] Re: census microfi []
> > #10 Re: [HUNGARY-L] Queries and Replie [Joseph J Jarfas
> <.]
> > #11 [HUNGARY-L] Hungarian National Arc [Joe Felt <>]
> >
> >Administrivia:
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> >______________________________X-Message: #1
> >Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:48:10 -0400
> >From: "Cornel von Berwald" <>
> >To:
> >Message-ID: <001e01bfb9ef$834ac160$>
> >Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Re: HUNGARY-D Digest V00 #172
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> >Gentlemen: PLEASE NOTE: Change of e-mail address from to
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> >Thank you.
> >Cornel von Berwald
> >
> >______________________________X-Message: #2
> >Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:42:55 -0300
> >From: "Julian Hallai" <>
> >To:
> >Message-ID: <018301bfb9ff$8dfc8980$>
> >Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Places help - some comments
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> >Just some comments about my previous message. I decided to write what I
> already know:
> >First Doc:
> >Date of birth/christening: may 23/25 1908.
> >Name: Francisco, Male, Catholic
> >Father: Hallai Josif 33 yr old, cath
> >PLACE???
> >Mother: Csillm Catita (dim Katalin) 31 yr old, cath
> >Iratosul Mare (Today Iratosu, ancient Nagyiratos)
> >Iratosulmare, October 4th 1922.
> >
> >Second Doc:
> >Date of birth/christening: jan 23/25 1910.
> >Name: Carol, Male, Catholic
> >Father: Hallai Stefan 30 yr old, cath
> >PLACE???
> >Mother: Szab Suzsana 26 yr old, cath
> >Bocsig
> >Bocsig, February 18th 19242.
> >
> >These "places" in bold are what I'm asking for help.
> >Thanks again
> >
> >Julian
> >
> >______________________________X-Message: #3
> >Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:26:09 EDT
> >From:
> >To:
> >Message-ID: <>
> >Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Postcards
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> >
> >Hi,
> >I've been looking through a photo album full of postcards and pictures from
> >the early to mid 1900's. Some look like photos of people (possibly
> >relatives), but they have printing on the back so they could be mailed like
> >postcards. Does anyone know if this was common (or possible)?
> >Thanks!
> >Carla
> >
> >______________________________X-Message: #4
> >Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:04:45 -0500
> >From: "Robert S. Helfer" <>
> >To:
> >Message-ID: <000901bfba24$1d202c60$>
> >Keywords: hungary-l
> >Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Postcards
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> >Carla commented:
> >
> ><<
> >I've been looking through a photo album full of postcards and pictures from
> >the early to mid 1900's. Some look like photos of people (possibly
> >relatives), but they have printing on the back so they could be mailed like
> >postcards. Does anyone know if this was common (or possible)?
> >>>
> >
> >I have a number of these, too. I believe it was quite common. At least one
> >of the photographs I have was taken by an itinerant photographer in Chicago
> >in about 1916. I have others with pictures I know my father took, and that
> >I think he developed himself. I think the paper stock they used for these
> >photographs had the standard post-card format pre-printed on the back.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Robert
> >
> >______________________________X-Message: #5
> >Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 20:28:01 PDT
> >From: "Suzanne J" <>
> >To:
> >Message-ID: <>
> >Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Re: {not a subscriber} Address
> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
> >
> >Donna,
> >
> >Here is the address for the National Archives in Budapest:
> >
> >Magyar Orszgos Levltr
> >1014 Budapest
> >Bcsi kapu tr 2-4
> >Hungary
> >
> >and for the Roman Catholic Rectory in Nagymaros:
> >
> >Rmai Katolikus Plbnia
> >2626 Nagymaros
> >Szent Imre tr 2
> >Hungary
> >
> >Good luck!
> >Suzannej
> >Hungary-L and Hungary-D listowner
> >HungaryGenWeb Hostess
> >
> >>From: "Donna Pakulak" <>
> >>To: <>
> >>Subject: {not a subscriber} Address
> >>Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:07:22 -0700 (PDT)
> >>
> >>Could someone please send me the address of the Hungarian National
> >>Archives? Also I am looking for advice and an address for the Catholic
> >>Church in Nagymoros, Hungary. Any information would be greatly
> >>appreciated.
> >>Thank you
> >>Donna Pakulak
> >>
> >>
> >
> >________________________________________________________________________
> >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
> >______________________________X-Message: #6
> >Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 20:51:21 PDT
> >From: "Suzanne J" <>
> >To:
> >Message-ID: <>
> >Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Queries and Replies
> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
> >
> >Hello Fellow Listers,
> >
> >So often I see requests for information posted that I think might be of
> >interest to many of us, then find myself wondering how many of these are
> >answered because I rarely see the replies, if any, posted to our List.
> >Although I do realize that mailboxes can fill up quickly with unnecessary
> >and unwanted e-mail, I think it would be nice if those who have genealogical
> >information which might be beneficial to others, such as website URL's,
> >special addresses, etc., would post their responses for all of us to
> >utilize.
> >
> >As an example, yesterday Joseph Martin posted a reply for information
> >regarding the settlement of Mandok in Szabolcs-Szatmar megye, that somehow
> >or the other, I have not seen. As I too, am interested in Mandok and other
> >nearby villages, I spent a good hour looking at this website, and still have
> >several links to visit from there. The same is true with several replies
> >Joseph Jarfas and Laszlo Apathi, among others have posted.
> >
> >Personally, I have found some of the replies posted on various Lists to be
> >extremely helpful and useful so just out of curiosity, I'd like to know what
> >others think. You can always tell me to take a hike, or go "find a tree!"
> >
> >Regards to all,
> >Suzannej
> >Hungary-L and Hungary-D listowner
> >HungaryGen Web Hostess
> >________________________________________________________________________
> >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
> >______________________________X-Message: #7
> >Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 23:47:42 -0700
> >From: Lisa Perkins <>
> >To:
> >Message-ID: <>
> >Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Re: census microfilms
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> >
> >Dear Janice,
> >I would like to know about the film numbers and rates. I am willing to
> >bet that the list wont mind if you post them here.
> >Thanks,
> >Lisa
> >
> >
> >> Hello listers,
> >>
> >> Today I received a reply to a question regarding what films the
> >> Hungarian
> >> National Archives has (for my specific interests) , not filmed by the
> >> Mormons.
> >> The list shows the following census records, along with their film
> >> numbers
> >> and cost in (presumably) dollars:
> >>
> >> National census of 1715 for Zemplen, Szatmar and Gyor counties;
> >> National
> >> census of 1720 for the same counties; the Regesta decimarum, tenths
> >> (church-rates) census 16-18 centuries, same counties; Conscriptiones
> >> portarum
> >> -Dicalis (tax) osszeirasok (census), 1530-1707, again, the same
> >> counties.
> >>
> >> I'm curious as to whether these records are statistics only, or if
> >> they show
> >> the names of the inhabitants who were taxed. Does anyone out there
> >> know?
> >> If anyone wants the film numbers and costs, please e-mail me; I'd be
> >> happy to
> >> supply the information. I think you'd still have to contact the
> >> Archives,
> >> though, for complete costs (shipping, etc.).
> >>
> >> Thanks for any info on the content anyone can give me.
> >>
> >> Janice Hollenczer Bernath
> >
> >______________________________X-Message: #8
> >Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 01:52:00 -0400
> >From: Joseph J Jarfas <>
> >To:
> >Message-ID: <>
> >Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Queries and Replies
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> >
> >Suzanne J wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Fellow Listers,
> >>
> >> So often I see requests for information posted that I think might be of
> >> interest to many of us, then find myself wondering how many of these are
> >> answered because I rarely see the replies, if any, posted to our List. ...
> >
> >Guilty!!:-)
> >
> >Dear Suzanne,
> >
> > I do make some decisions based on how much I think my answer will
> interest
> >others - and make a private reply. Not because I'm afraid my mailbox gets
> full
> >(I keep a copy of each request and reply ... BIG FILE!! by now!:-)) but don't
> >see anybody else interested in the town, village or part of the country
> this or
> >that particular query had. (Lurkers take note: if you don't post we don't
> >know!!:-))
> >
> > If the majority of listers agrees I'm more than willing to post all my
> >answers to the group (as well as to the person posting the query).
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >P.S. It's a good 'hike' to make it up to my place though only 1500 ft
> above sea
> >level!!:-)
> >
> >--
> >Joseph J Jarfas
> >Equinunk, PA - USA
> >
> >
> >______________________________X-Message: #9
> >Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 02:45:45 EDT
> >From:
> >To:
> >Message-ID: <>
> >Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Re: census microfilms
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
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> >
> >After several requests and a suggestion, here are the numbers and prices of
> >the few counties' microfilms I was interested in:
> >
> >National Census in 1715
> >Zemplen Co. roll # 3121 5$
> >Szatmar Co. roll # 3128 4,5$
> >Gyor Co. roll # 3129 3$
> >
> >National census in 1720
> >Zemplen Co. roll # 3135 7$
> >Szatmar Co. roll # 3143 5$
> >Gyor Co. roll # 3146 4,5$
> >
> >Census in 1828 (by Mormons)
> >Zemplen Co. roll # B 218-225 102$
> >Szatmar Co. roll # B 160-165 73$
> > for the roll with the town of Bere, # B 161 2,5$
> >Gyor Co. roll # B 86-88 32$
> > for the roll with the town of Gyarmat, # B 86 2,5$
> >
> >Regesta decimarum, reference: E 159 - tenths (church rates) census 16-18
> >Centuries
> >Zemplen Co. roll # 9867-9915 703$
> >Szatmar Co. roll # 9812-9847 512$
> >Gyor Co. roll # 9695 13,5$
> > for the above film, the print is blurred; it could be film # 9095
> >
> >Census records of county Zemplen, 1857 (by Mormons)
> > roll # B 1776-1781 66$
> >
> >Census records of county Zemplen, 1869 (by Mormons)
> > roll # B 1586-1720 205$
> >
> >reference: E 158 Conscriptiones portarum, 1530-1707 - Dicalis (tax)
> >osszeirasok (census)
> >Zemplen Co. roll # 1666-1670 37$
> >Szatmar Co. roll # 1665-1666 22$
> >Gyor Co. roll # 1636 7$
> >
> >As a final note, it's stated that the Archives staff does not have the
> >capacity to identify the exact position of place names within a county's
> >reference material, because it requires extended research work which has to
> >be done by the users themselves.
> >
> >The address for the Hungarian National Archives is:
> >MAGYAR ORSZAGOS LEVELTAR
> >Budapest I., Becsi Kapu Ter 2-4.
> >1250 Budapest I., Postafiok 3.
> >Head of Department, Eva Gerhardt
> >Telephone: 356-5611 Fax: 212-1619
> >
> >If anyone knows if these records contain actual names, or only the
> >statistics, please let us all know.
> >
> >Janice Hollenczer Bernath
> >
> >______________________________X-Message: #10
> >Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 03:36:18 -0400
> >From: Joseph J Jarfas <>
> >To:
> >Message-ID: <>
> >Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Queries and Replies
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Joe,
> >>
> >> I wouldn't mind at all seeing replies sent to the list; I've replied to
> >> personal e-mails

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