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From: "Dr. Stephen Hamilton" <>
Subject: Fwd: [HUNGARY-L] Hungarian Naming Patterns
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:52:23 -0700 (PDT)


Hello Becky!

Within several generations of my (SARKADI) family born in Hungary, the
first born son was named after his FATHER and the first born daughter
was named after her MOTHER. In one case, the first son died within a
year (or so) and a subsequent son was named after his FATHER. And, as
if to be fair, when the namesake daughter also died young, a subsequent
daughter was named after her MOTHER. Not a large sample, but at least
one (family) exaample.

Also, there are "volunteer" folks on the internet with access to U.S.
Census data (by state) ... and these folks might be able to help you
locate some of your family in the 1900, 1910, and 1920 data. Let me
know if you need help making contact.

--- Becky <> wrote:
> From: "Becky" <>
> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 21:34:26 -0600
> Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Hungarian Naming Patterns
> To:
>
> Can someone tell me where I could learn about naming pattern customs
> used in
> the 1800s in Hungary? For example, was the first son named after the
> paternal grandfather; the second after the maternal grandfather, etc.
>
> I am still searching for my elusive Hungarian ancestors (Istenes
> changed to
> Estenes changed to Smith about 1910) and still have no idea where
> they were
> born in Hungary. No one who has any information that would help is
> still
> living; death certificates of my grandparents (he died in 1926 and
> she died
> in 1930) give only Hungary as a birthplace and indicate she had been
> in the
> USA 40 years, so they probably did not come in at Ellis Island. I
> could not
> find them in the 1890 PA census. I don't know where they were living
> in
> 1900, 1910 or 1920 so I cannot check census records. I know that
> three sons
> were born in PA in 1893, 1894, and 1897, but they are all deceased
> and I do
> not have names of towns/counties where they were born and I cannot
> obtain
> birth certificates or baptismal papers. I have written to several
> counties
> in PA trying to find naturalization papers -- no luck so far. I
> know the
> family was Roman Catholic but once again -- not knowing towns where
> they
> lived I cannot contact churches for baptismal records either. I have
> death
> certificates for the son born in 1893 (death certificate issued in
> 1927
> shows his parents as having been born in Australia which is wrong)
> and the
> son born in 1897 who died in 1926 which shows his parents as being
> from
> Hungary. Not a lot to go on I must say. I got the social security
> record
> for the son born in 1894 but it had no helpful information. I tried
> to get
> a death certificate for him from PA but could not obtain one.
>
> Thank you all for any suggestions you might have.
>
> Becky Smith
>
>
>


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Stephen S. Hamilton, Ph.D.

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