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From: "Janet Kozlay" <>
Subject: Persistence of Hungarian Identity
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 07:29:04 -0500
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20041121095616.04ab5ec0@pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk>


Although not a genetic study, there is an interesting chapter on the
maintenance of the Hungarian identity in villages in the Burgenland in
Austria, at http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/tria/tria43.htm. These
factors are probably also present in Hungarian communities in Slovakia and
Romania, despite governmental efforts to suppress them.

As for Hungarian links to the original tribes, Lajos Reich has pointed out
that even they were not all Magyars.

Janet


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From: Geza Varga [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 4:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Re: Celtic Background: Hungarian genetics

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Catherine,

Unfortunately there is no PDF option to click on, this is probably reserved
for registered members.

Based on the abstract, what seems to cause confusion is that the paper
talks about the origins of the population of present day Hungary rather
than that of the Magyar tribes entering the area some 1100 years ago. These
are two distinct things, of course.

It would be nice if I could read the whole paper but I don't think I want
to pay for it.

Best wishes
Geza


At 04:04 2004.11.21. Sunday, Catherine A Lomax wrote:

>Several people have asked me for the reference I mentioned in my previous
>posting. There are many, but here is one.
>
> Guglielmino CR, De Silvestri A, Beres J. Probable ancestors of Hungarian
>ethnic groups: an admixture analysis. Ann Hum Genet 2000 Mar;64(Pt
>2):145-59
>
>You can access the paper for free online if you go to:
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed
>and do a search for the authors. Then click on that article and
>you will see the abstract. Then click on the "go to publisher's site"
>button. Then ckick PDF to get the full text of the article.
>
>The article is a bit dry for the lay person, but there are some other
>references at the end of the paper if anyone wants more information.
>
>-Catherine Lomax
>
>
>
>
>On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Catherine A Lomax wrote:
>
> >
> > I did a paper for an anthropology class a few years ago, and I found
that
> > in the case of the Magyars, there was a small percentage of them who
> > imposed their language on the conquered people who were already in the
> > area. The genetic makeup of the Hungarian people is only about 10%
magyar
> > and the rest is slavic. I can probably find the reference if anyone is
> > interested
> >
> > -Cathy Lomax
> >

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