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From: "Karen Pritchett" <>
Subject: Re: [HURST] Spencer Breeding Sr - Correction
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:27:30 -0700
Garland - not ignoring you....just digesting and trying to track where I got the info I had. The Hurst/Stone/Breeding/Standifer bunch was one of the first groups I worked on more than 12 years ago, and much of my info was hard copy and never entered into the computer. In addition, in my early days I wasn't diligent about entering sources (my first software had HORRIBLE capabilities and I foolishly thought I could rely on my memory...lol). I do know that the Byron/Nancy info came from Cecil Vance,but can't remember how he reached that conclusion.
Another descendant of John and Elizabeth Stone Breeding sent some info (also hard copy) that seemed to point to the Byron/Nancy marriage. There was some talk of a semi-scandal at the marriage of first cousins, and further talk that a pregnancy preceded the marriage. Of course, John 1797 would also be a first cousin. I knew that Fulkerson said John 1797 was a son of John 1760, but didn't have the other sources and can't remember why we went the other way. I shall have to dig thru my file cabinets for the other stuff, as it seems there is certainly more support for your conclusion than I can produce for ours.
At some point there was a family Bible (through the Stone side) that perished in a house fire 40-50 years ago. If I am understanding your conclusions correctly, you and Hazel have Edward Breeding as the father of James, (Spencer) and John Breeding Jr. I am also curious as to how John Breeding Jr can be a Junior if his father is Edward Breeding. How do you place John Bryant Breeding? It would seem more logical that John Breeding Jr 1760 would have a father named John, perhaps John Bryant Breeding, but logical doesn't always mean anything. Also, the only brother I had for James Breeding 1735 was Spencer, if there actually was a brother named Spencer and he was not a nephew.
Sometime before 1999, someone emailed me a "genealogy report" that seems to indicate that Byron was also known as John, married Nancy, daughter of Spencer and Betsy....with many other oddities that don't seem to match what has been put forth in more recent years. Although that computer is long gone, along with the full name of the supplier, I saved it as "Breeding by Holland" and seem to recollect the name as Julie Holland. I will send you this off list as I can't send attachments to the list. It is sourced, but almost exclusively from Old Time Tazewell, Fulkerson Notes and the Claiborne County Historical Society publications. The Cecil Vance info I mentioned before is NOT sourced in the form in which I received it.
I think I'm confusing myself more as I go along, so will stop and try to collect my thoughts. Will send that attachment forthwith directly to you.
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [HURST] Spencer Breeding Sr - Correction
Hazel Bonner and I are still attempting to sort out these Breedings, but I
indicate that the John Breeding 1797 who married Elizabeth Stone was the son of
John Breeding Jr. 1760 and the grandson of Edward Breeding 1737. These are my
notes on John Breeding.
"Appalachian Haven", by Robert L. Breeding, Appendix J: "John Breeding was
born 1-27-1797 in either Shenandoah or Wythe County, Va. On September 30, 1819
he purchased 50 acres of land on the 'New Cut' Road that leads from New River
to Makes Creek, from Elisha Nunn and Delily, his wife (Wythe Co., Va.). A copy
of this deed is among Joyn's private papers. In 1825 he moved to Claiborne
County, Tennessee and settled on Barren Creek near his Uncle Bryants. He
purchased land in the area between Ball Creek and Sycamore Creek, accumulating
approximately 1,200 acres. He joined Big Springs Curch on December 1, 1833. His home
was about two miles east of Lone Mountain, Tennessee, and was a 2-story log
structure. All of John's children and their marriages are known. John, and
Elizabeth, his wife, were first burried in Johnson Cemetery on Ball Creek and in
the early thirties were moved by the Tennessee Valley Authority to a cmetery in
Kettle Hollow in Union County, Tennessee. The stone a carved limestone from
his farm, still stands and is legible."
>From P. G. Fulkerson papers: "John Breeding, a son of John, (Sr.), the old
Revolutionary soldier, came from N. C. with his father in 1810 and settled on
Straight Creek and afterwards on Sycamore Creek. He married Elizabeth (Margret)
Stone." This conflicts with the information from Appalachian Haven, but
include for information only.
"Old Time Tazewell", by Mary Hansard, page 154: "John Breeding, another good
old worthy citizen, I will mention. His wife was a sister of Thomas Stone, Sr.
I was acquainted with the old folks well but had no acquaintance with any of
the family except the two oldest: Russell and Mary Ann Breeding were old
schoolmates of mine. They were nice young folks and their company was very
pleasant. The old folks have passed away, but they have left an intelligent family of
children and grandchildren to occupy their places."
Early Settlers of Lee County, Virginia
John Breeding (son of Edward and Elizabeth) was born 1760 in Augusta County,
Virginia. He was the son of Edward according to his own declaration when he
applied for a pension, also states that his father told him that he was born
1760 in Augusta County. He was in Claiborne County, Tennessee, September 18,
1832 and states he was 72 years old. He further states that he entered the
services of the United States as a Subsitute for his father, Edward Braden, the
year does not recollect in the company, commanded by Captain John Young, the
field officer was Major George Moffett…this was a three month tour. In September
1777 he was drafted for three months, sometime in January 1781 he was drafted
again for twenty days… he states that he never did get a discharge in
writing. He also states that he lived in the State of Tennessee ever since 1792,
that he left Virginia that year. He died August 5, 1840 in Claiborne County,
Tennessee, Sarah Breeding (Braden) widow and relic of John Breeden dec’d states
that she had resided in Claiborne County, Tennessee for the space of 22 years.
“John Braden” is the signature he used in signing the declaration. His
Revolutionary War Pension
Record (S 1643) is found in the National Archives, Washington D. C. Sarah
Breeding (Braden) was no doubt his second wife.
In 1810 John Breeding purchased 209 acres lying on Powell River in Claiborne
County, Tennessee, from Nathaniel Davis, witnessed by Henry Hunter, Peter
Ausmus, James Flowers (DBK B 269) and in 1812 he purchased 109 acres lying at Lead
Mine Bent of Powell River from John Cose lot D. No. 2 of the Henderson
Survey. (DBK D 187)
In 1816 John Breeding conveyed 255 acres lying on Powell River in Claiborne
County, Tennessee to George Breeding (Braden) for $800 (DBK E 235). The
evidence is strong that John and George were brothers, by this date George had
removed from Augusta to Tennessee.
John Breeding and his first wife (name unknown, but may have been Nancy) had
children but the name of only one is known. John Breeding was born January
27, 1797. John I and John II continued to purchase land in Claiborne County.
In 1837, Thomas Hurst sold 180 acres to John Breeding (DBK M 151). This tract
of land was the homeplace of John Breeding after the above date. My father
was born and lived on it all his life. (I have the original deed) by Isaac
Newton Breeding, a surveyor, Tazewell, Claiborne County, Tennessee. (Children of
John Jr. listed) (Hazel Bonner 13 Jun 2007)
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