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From: Cheryl <>
Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Chicago Memories
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 00:02:12 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <899823.91396.qm@web84002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Hi Linda,

Actually, this Chicago list did NOT generate controversy/animosity; it was the "Other" Cook list that wanted memories stopped. Pure genealogy, whatever that means was their main goal, but not their only goal. Commercialism, in whatever form had no place on that list. But commercialism was never defined and some members were arbitrarily bounced from membership even for simply telling other members about a site they thought appropriate to genealogical interests of others. Unwarranted hate mail became a huge problem. Some people resented interests of others and tried to bring us all down. I personally received over 300 emails voicing support for a new list.

In the interests of more thoughtful moderation this Chicago list was then started. ChicagoMemories had already been in existence and Arleen so thankfully took on another role. I welcome you to the memories list and hope you will participate soon. I remember you as having helped others in Chicago research and know you are knowledgeable about the area.

This is a great time to remind others that we have no barriers to saying/feeling what we want to express. Unlike some list-owners, Arleen is a free spirit. As long as we don't snipe at each other or do illegal things, Arleen is there for us. Commercialism is hard to define, but if you see a bible on ebay that you think someone on this list will want to know about, tell us! We are not 5 year old Kindergartners and we know what we want to hear about. Sometimes, though, true memories supercede genealogy and should then be voiced elsewhere. I'm sure Arleen or I will steer the conversations to the appropriate place without kicking others off this list like what happened on the other list.

Sometimes this list gets too "quiet". How about if we all name a brick wall and ask the others to break it? Please don't just give a surname with no other details. We have no idea who your family is; we need to know as much as you know, OK? I know it's a busy time of year, maybe others would prefer to wait until January? Let's hear from you!

Beth, please start us off here; Dave, Cynthia, Molly, Bonnie, Linda, etal join in. I know you guys read/write. Let's hear it! Let's ROCK!

Cher


--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Linda Kush <> wrote:

> From: Linda Kush <>
> Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Chicago Memories
> To: "IL-COOK-CHICAGO" <>
> Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 8:36 AM
> Cheryl, Thanks for reminding us of the Memories list, which
> started a few years back after several long threads of
> memories made some members of this list a bit impatient to
> get back to "genealogy." I meant to sign up for
> Chicago Memories at that time, but I've finally done so
> now.
>
> Best wishes,
> Linda in Boston
>
> --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Cheryl
> <> wrote:
> From: Cheryl <>
> Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Chicago Memories
> To: "IL-COOK-CHICAGO"
> <>
> Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 1:58 AM
>
> Carol & List,
>
> I'd love to discuss various memories of Chicago. I
> don't know if
> everyone on this list knows about the other list Arleen
> very graciously
> moderates. Try Chicago Memories; though quiet lately some
> new members just might
> spice it up! We've had a lot of very good stories told;
> so many memories
> were brought back into our current thoughts.
>
>
>
> I hope to see you there!
>
> Cher
>
>
>  " I like to here from you to hear some of your
> memories of the southwest
> > side".
> >
> > Carol
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Cheryl <>
> > To: IL-COOK-CHICAGO
> <>
> > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 11:05:35 PM
> > Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] OUR LADY OF THE ANGELS FIRE
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > This is a very sad subject.
> >
> > Yes, the anniversary of this horrible fire is coming
> up.
> > Though I was only a kid and I lived southside I
> vividly
> > remember this day; I was on my way to an evening event
> when
> > I first heard. A year later my parish, St Bede's,
> though
> > southside, became the home school for a survivor. Jim
> lived
> > awful memories and wound up failing his grade twice.
> He was
> > a wonderful guy,but we had no support systems in place
> for
> > these victims. To this day I often think about him and
> the
> > others.
> >
> > Thankfully, people learned from this; codes were
> rewritten.
> > As Bede's expanded, all classrooms were ground
> level.
> > The codes still remain as far as I know.  My kids
> went to a
> > different school, but the stories were lower level,
> like 1
> > 1/2. I feel our kids could easily jump the level.
> >
> > As an adult, one of my sons suffered a horrible head
> > injury. Though clinically dead twice that night, he
> did pull
> > through. The docs told us he would be a vegetable, let
> him
> > go. Of course we couldn't do that; though not a
> veggie,
> > he survived but has definite deficits.  Every day I
> thank
> > God he is still alive. I honestly believe I would have
> been
> > buried next to him. My mom , still living, lost my sis
> to
> > cancer 10 years ago, at a too young age; not a day
> goes by
> > that she doesn't cry for the daughter she lost. It
> > doesn't matter if the child is an adult; a parent
> still
> > weeps.
> >
> > At this time of year it is appropriate to thank God
> for the
> > blessings we have, and to remember those not as
> fortunate.
> > Many of those parents are probably still alive; still
> > haunted by those memories.
> >
> > To any survivors/family of OLA victims I wish you a
> > heartfelt cleansing of the horrific, to be superceded
> by
> > only happy memories of your loved one.
> >
> > Cher
> >
> >
> >      
> >
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