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From: Robert L Webb <>
Subject: [ILJEFFER-L] G ap 1813-1817
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:37:20 -0600


Dear Sheldon,
My observation has probably been considered so I realize it is nothing
profound, so I will just mention it, and if it is of no value, everybody
can use the delete key.
I don't know exactly when Lazarus and Eli Webb, Joel Page, John Wren,
and others who were very early at Middle Fork church, physically left
Kentucky, but I'm pretty sure the records show that Middle Fork was first
organized as an "arm" of East Fork Church in Franklin County. East Fork
is listed in the oldest existing minutes of Little River Association of
Kentucky (1818) - but unfortunately the minutes from 1813-1818 don't seem
to have survived. But the fact that East Fork is listed in 1818, and was
not added that year, tells me that East Fork was in existence by the
summer or fall of 1817. I think it is possible that East Fork church may
have been organized as much as two or three years before 1817, but I
can't prove it.
But it appears to me that Lazarus and Eli Webb and their wives, and
Joel Page, John Wren, and others who were early at Middle Fork, had been
members of East Fork and were dismissed to form an arm in September 1818,
which was organized into Middle Fork church in 1819.
I wish the records of East Fork could be found to answer these
questions for us. But it seems very unlikely that they will turn up at
this late date.
Sincerely,
Robert Webb


On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:46:18 -0700 "Sheldon Jones" <>
writes:
> According to Don Page:
> Joel PAGE, son of Robert PAGE, was born on 25 Jan 1779,
> probably in Caswell Co., NC
> (I believe updated info has him b. Woodruff, 96 district, SC-srj).
>
> He married Rebecca MOORE in Woodruff, Spartanburg District, SC.
> ( a direct descendant has a handwritten letter by Joel that states
> he married Rebecca MOORE in Woodruff, SC - srj)
>
> Joel PAGE is listed as a member in fellowship on 08 Sep 1803 in the
> minutes of the Bethel Church. Joel and Rebekah are dismissed
> from the Bethel Church in Nov. 1804. Joel and his
> family moved to Barren Co., KY., in early 1805 as he shows
> up in the tax roll for that year dated 8 Jun 1805. He is
> listed as 1 male over 21, 1 horse, no land. Joel's
> last listing on the Barren Co. tax rolls is 1813 shown as
> 1 white male over 21 and 2 horses. The history of the
> Dripping Springs Baptist Church in Barren Co., KY states,
> "Joel PAGE and Rebecca his wife were received by letter in
> June of 1808". An entry in October of 1817 states,
> "Bro. PAGE and wife petition for letter of dismission is granted".
> Why the relative inconsistency between the church dates
> and the tax rolls is unknown. He probably left
> KY in late 1817 or early 1818 and moved to Southern
> Illinois where he settled in Franklin Co. The
> records of the Middlefork Baptist Church of
> Franklin Co., Ill., show that Joel PAGE was recommended
> as a Deacon in September 1819 and ordained on 01 Nov 1819.
> He appears in the 1820 census of Franklin Co. On
> 22 Sept 1822 Bro. Joel PAGE and wife are dismissed
> by letter from the Middlefork Church. Joel and family
> moved to Hamilton Co., Ill, as he is listed in the
> 1830 census of Hamilton Co. On 29 Sept 1830 Joel
> PAGE asks for readmittance to the Middlefork Church
> and is approved by letter in May 1831. Apparently
> he moved back to Franklin Co., after living in
> Hamilton Co. for 8 or 9 years. Joel died between
> 1833 (last church entry) and 1838 (first sale of
> property after his death) and is buried at Middlefork
> Cemetery in Franklin Co. near Ewing. His wife,
> Rebecca, is listed as head of household in 1840 census
> of Franklin Co.
>
>
> (Joel & Rebecca had 13 children - I don't believe I listed
> them all - srj)
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert L Webb [mailto:]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:59 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER-L] Jeremiah Moore
> >
> >
> > Thank you very much, Sheldon. Looks like the Webbs were pretty
> much
> > connected to the Page family. Which of the two Joel's did you
> > think was
> > ordained as a minister at Middle Fork?
> > Robert
> >
>
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