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From: "Linda Katherine Jenkins-Wensel" <>
Subject: [ILKNOX-L] You have been busy!
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 08:15:21 -0700


You are getting tons of information! I am a little confused on a couple
of things though.

I think you got the John J. and James Y. mixed up.

You say you found pages with John J. married to ? Young with 8
children.....Samuel R., David, Jane, William Victor, John and
Nelson........These children belonged to James Young Brisben and Juliet
McClung. James Young Brisben's father was John and his mother, Mary
Young (not proven if name Mary.).....now there is a John J. Brisben,
which is James' brother which stands for John Jack Brisben.(more on him
later)

If you found all those children living with John J. Brisben, then I am
confused. (and now I wonder what the father of James Young and John
Jack's middle name is.....all these duplicate names get confusing)

Now for the John Jack Brisben.....he was married three times....first to
Jacobina Klein, then Nancy Paul and finally to Sarah Ann Owens. You
have the 1850 census with John J. and Sarah and children (Marcus, Daniel
is really Junius (male) Caroline, Sarah, Joseph Samuel (this is not my
Samuel) ) This family is the brother of James Young Brisben, who is the
father of my Samuel.

The Victor you found age 17 is the brother to my Samuel R. son of James
Young........all I knew about Victor he died at age 20, but did not
have a birth year for him...so this gives me a clue.... and was very
interesting to see Samuel was in the 1850 census you found. I would
guess if he was an apprentice, living with a carpenter, he was also
training to be a carpenter.... So it shows Victor born in IN and Samuel
R. born in KY.....again, very interesting.

Jumping around here a bit...You say you found a Victor King living next
door to the Young's. I have a Victor King! Victor King, b. 1790, d.
1871, merchant, Madison, IN, married Eliza Rowe Lyle. Victor was the
son of William King and Agnes Waugh.

And you say you found Dr. Charles H. Bacon in the Cox family book? This
is also interesting, and I know a Bacon researcher who would love to
know that connection.......Dr. Charles is one of the only typo's I have
found in the Lyle Family book.......it lists him as Charles Harney
Bacon, but I am almost sure it is Charles Harvey Bacon. Now, you found
him living in Greenfield, IN......do you remember what time period that
would be...because 1912, when the Lyle book came out, he was in KS.

What a puzzle!.....and with the info you sent earlier on Rose, we
started to put a time line down for James Hugh Brisbane (this is my
grandfather, son of Rose...he was born James Wallner Brisben, but by the
mid 1920's was going by James Hugh Brisbane.......just to confuse the
heck out of us! We can not figure out where and when he married my
grandmother. ....and that is another whole puzzle) ......Yes, I think
James and George Brisbane are both listed in the SSI Index.

All this is really starting to give me some sort of idea of what was
going on with everyone......just a few pieces missing to make a story.

I am still pretty sick, and suffering from lack of sleep.....so if I get
confusing on stuff, or send you double letters, please excuse me.....and
it is killing me, because I am sure your mail has come, and it is two
miles to my mail box....so I have not been yet. catch you a little
later. Linda

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