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From: "Donna & Bob" <>
Subject: [ILMacoupin] All my Macoupin families
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:41:05 -0500

I always have a hard time picking just one ancestor to "showcase". I don't
want any of them to feel left out ya know. So, I am posting all of them all
at once. This is a run down of every family I am looking for in Macoupin.
Here's hoping there's a cousin out there!
Donna in MD

Descendants of John Gotthardt


Generation No. 1


1. JOHN1 GOTTHARDT was born July 02, 1825 in Hanover, Germany, and died
March 10, 1920 in Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL.. He married MINNIE FRICKE
April 27, 1873 in Macoupin Co., ILL. She was born September 1850 in Germany,
and died November 1915 in Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL..

Notes for JOHN GOTTHARDT:

Fought in Germany, (Prussian Wars) had only known war from the time he could
hold a gun, deserted the German Army and walked to France and came to
America, and worked his way up the Mississippi River. Fought in the Civil
War with the Missouri Calvary. From 86 year old Cynthia Gooch Edward
(Grandaughter of John)

Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction Rank -
Discharge Notes Allegiance

Gotthardt John E 1 Missouri Cavalry. Private Private Union

Honor Roll Of Veteran Burials in Macoupin County IL1956, State of Illinois,
Illinois Veterans' Commission

Surname,Given Name,War,Rank,Branch,Unit or Organization,Date of
Death,Cemetery

GOTTHART, John , C, Pvt , Army, Co E 1 MO Cav , 10 Mar 1920, City Cemetery
Carlinville Twp Carlinville

John's Civil War Pension paperwork states he was 5'9" high, Had a light
complextion, blue eyes and brown hair. The number of his pension certificate
is 534.088

John was a Private of Company E, 1st Regiment, MO Calvary. Enrolled Aug.
1st, 1861, St. Louis, MO for 3 years. Mustered in at Jefferson Barracks, MO
Sept. 6, 1861. Mustered out Sept. 17, 1864. Honorably Discharged.

Purpose for Travel : Staying in the USA

Mode of Travel : Cabin

Manifest ID Number : 00009048

Bremen, Germany to New York

September 1, 1857

DISTRICT OF THE NEW YORK, PORT OF NEW YORK.

I, G. W. Haake, Master of the Brem ship Reinhard do solemnly, sincerely, and
truly swear that the following List or Manifest, subscribed by me, and now
delivered by me to the Collector of the Customs of the Collection District
of New York, is a full and perfect list of all the passengers taken on board
the said vessel at Bremen from which port said vessel has now arrived; and
that on said list is truly designated the age, the sex, and the occupation
of each said passenger, the part of vessel occupied by each during the
passage, the country to which each belongs, and also the country of which it
is intended by each to become an inhabitant; and that said List or Manifest
truly sets forth the number of said passengers who have died on said voyage,
and the names and ages of those who died. So help me God. (signed) W A
Griffiths.

Sworn to this 1st September 1857 before me (Signature Unreadable)

List or Manifest of all the Passengers taken on board the Brem ship Reinhard
whereof G. W. Haake is master, from Bremen burthen 7500 tons.

93 John Gotthard 32 2 M Servant Hannover Illinois

Macoupin County Illinois Courthouse Naturalization Indexes (got
Naturalization papers)

GOTTHARDT, John Shelf Index I - Vol. 1854-1897, Page 62

Birth Index 1, Macoupin County Illinois, 20 Mar 1998 (received these 2
records)

Gothardt, John and Mina, Charlotte, 1881, 1 , 238

Gotthardt, John and Mina, John, 1878, 1, 67


More About JOHN GOTTHARDT:

Burial: Carlinville City Cemetery, Carlinville, ILL

Census: 1920, Lived with daughter Emma Slagel and family at age 94.

Immigration: 1856, Date found on 1900&1920 census

Nationality: German

Naturalization: 1861

Occupation: 1900, Dealer in hardware

Notes for MINNIE FRICKE:

Mother's death has some questions, one story is that she died at the birth
of Minnie, the other is that she died just before the trip to America or
during the trip. Was adopted and raised by the Fricke family.

Oral history from John's Grand daughter Cynthia Gooch Edwards.

More About MINNIE FRICKE:

Burial: Carlinville City Cemetery, Carlinville, ILL

Immigration: 1857, From Germany as shown on 1900 IL census


Children of JOHN GOTTHARDT and MINNIE FRICKE are:

i. MINNIE C. GOTTHARDT, b. January 27, 1874, ILL; m. NEWTON A. GOODPASTURE,
August 08, 1897, Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL; b. 1860, ILL; d. February
15, 1945, Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL..

Notes for MINNIE C. GOTTHARDT:

Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900

GROOM BRIDE CNTY DATE VOL/PAGE LIC

GOODPASTURE, NEWTON GOTHORDT, MINNIE MACOUPIN 08/08/1897 002/0257 00005942

More About MINNIE C. GOTTHARDT:

Census: 1920, States both parents from Hanover, Germany

Notes for NEWTON A. GOODPASTURE:

Illinois Statewide Death Index, 1916-1950
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/Genealogy/IDPHDeathSearchServlet

Last Name First Name Middle Name Sex/Race Age Cert # Death Date County City
Date Filed

GOODPASTURE NEWTON A M/W UNK 0010346 1945-02-15 MACOUPIN CARLINVILLE

1930 census shows they were tenants, Newton married at 38 and Minnie at 23,
shows Newtons father to be from VA and his Mom from TN

More About NEWTON A. GOODPASTURE:

Census: 1920, States both parents from Illinois

Occupation: 1920, Laborer/General Farm

ii. MARGRETHE A. GOTTHARDT, b. June 04, 1876, ILL; d. March 15, 1946,
Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL.; m. JOHN THOMAS GOOCH, June 17, 1895,
Carlinville,Macoupin,Illinois; b. February 1871, Carlinville, Madison Co.,
ILL; d. November 23, 1960.

Notes for MARGRETHE A. GOTTHARDT:

Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900

GOOCH, JOHN T GOTTHARDT, MARGARET A MACOUPIN 06/17/1896 002/0229 00005577



Illinois Statewide Death Index, 1916-1950
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/Genealogy/IDPHDeathSearchServlet

Last Name First Name Middle Name Sex/Race Age Cert # Death Date County City
DateFiled

GOOCH MARGARET A F/W UNK 0011761 1946- -15 MACOUPIN CARLINVILLE



More About MARGRETHE A. GOTTHARDT:

Census: 1880, Has name listed as Maggie.

More About JOHN THOMAS GOOCH:

Occupation: 1920, Laborer

Marriage Notes for MARGRETHE GOTTHARDT and JOHN GOOCH:

Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900
http://cyberdriveillinois.com/cgi-bin/archives/marriage.s

GOOCH, JOHN T GOTTHARDT, MARGARET A MACOUPIN 06/17/1896 002/0229 00005577



iii. JOHN GOTTHARDT, b. October 09, 1878, Carlinville, Macoupin Co.,
Illinois; d. October 08, 1947, Alton, Madison Co., ILL.; m. LOIS ARMSTRONG,
Abt. 1903, Illinois; b. 1877, Illinois; d. 1914.

Notes for JOHN GOTTHARDT:

1910 Census had them living in Godfrey, Ill. Ref.#16200150035 Soundex#G363

1910 Madison Co. IL Godfrey 16200150035

Soundex # G363

Gotthardt, John W(hite) 31 Illinois IL

Lois, W , 32, IL

Dorothy D , 5, IL

Wary K. D , 4, IL (Actually in as W...must be typo for M)

Helen M. D , 2, IL

ID: I356

Name: John GOTTHARDT

Given Name: John

Surname: Gotthardt

Sex: M

Birth: OCT 1878 in Illinois

Change Date: 16 OCT 1998 at 00:00:00

Father: John GOTTHARDT b: JUL 1825 in Germany

Mother: Minnie b: SEP 1850 in Germany

Updated: Thu Oct 14 07:07:05 1999 Contact: carolyn gibbons
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http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cgib&id=I356

Last Name First Name Middle Name Sex/Race Age Cert # DeathDate County City
DateFiled

GOTTHARDT JOHN M/W UNK 0042659 1947-10-08 MADISON ALTON



Funeral Director: John A. Hoehn, Bauer & Hoehn, Alton, IL, License No. 783

More About JOHN GOTTHARDT:

Burial: October 10, 1947, Carlinville City Cemetery, Carlinville, ILL

Cause of Death: Carcinoma of Stomach

Individual Note: October 08, 1947, At time of death was listed as Retired
Bridge Builder for Alton R.R.

Occupation: 1910, Worked for the railroad-Maintenance

Residence: 1947, 918 E. 7th St., Madison Co., IL for 17 years at time of
death

Social Security Number: 709-07-9409

More About LOIS ARMSTRONG:

Burial: Carlinville City Cemetery, Carlinville, ILL

iv. CLYRA GOTTHARDT, b. March 01, 1880, ILL; m. GUY A. MURPHY, Abt. 1900,
ILL; b. Abt. 1877, Missouri.



More About GUY A. MURPHY:

Census: 1930, States both parents from "United States"

Occupation: 1930, Carpenter-building homes

Residence: 1930, 1700 50th Street, Washington Park Village, St. Clair Co.,
IL

v. CHARLOTTE GOTTHARDT, b. May 01, 1881, Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL.; d.
Bef. January 1898.

vi. GEORGE GOTTHARDT, b. October 01, 1883, ILL; d. 1921.

Notes for GEORGE GOTTHARDT:

Macoupin County Coroner's Inquest Files Index, (1835-1928)

Name of Deceased Date of Inquest Cause of Death Remarks

GOTTHARDT, GEORGE 1921/05/03 AUTO ACCIDENT THROWN FROM CAR,

MAN FRACTURED HIS SKULL WHEN HE HIT THE GROUND.

(called IRAD and requested this record...said will be here in 3-4 weeks)



More About GEORGE GOTTHARDT:

Census: 1920, Lives with sister Margaret Gooch and family.

Died from: Auto accident

Occupation: 1920, Miner-Coal Mine

vii. EMMA GOTTHARDT, b. March 19, 1886, ILL; d. 1990; m. WILLIAM C. SLAGEL,
Abt. 1907, IL; b. Abt. 1883, ILL.

Notes for WILLIAM C. SLAGEL:

1920 & 1930 census states William is born in ILL, his father in PA and his
mother in Germany.



Check into this....think this is his parents and siblings

Birth Index 1, Macoupin County Illinois, Earliest Births through 1881

Slagel, Charles and Dina, William, 1882, 1 , 313

Slagel, Charles H and Dena , male, 1878, 1 , 37

Slagle, Charles H and Dena , Rebecca, 1879, 1 , 132

Dorchester Township Macoupin County IL family names, the date settled in
Macoupin

County, and nativity were taken from the 1875 Atlas of Macoupin County,
published by

Warner and Beers, Chicago.

C H Slagel, 1868, PA.

More About WILLIAM C. SLAGEL:

Census: 1910, Census states Father from PA, Mother from Germany

Occupation: 1920, Painter

Residence: 1930, Owned home at 450 Ramey St., Carlinville, IL

Marriage Notes for EMMA GOTTHARDT and WILLIAM SLAGEL:

1910 census shows them married for 3 years.

1930 census shows William age 48 married at 24, Emma 44 married at 20.

viii. KATHERINE GOTTHARDT, b. October 20, 1888, ILL; m. EARL DAVENPORT.

More About EARL DAVENPORT:

Occupation: Civil Engineer, East St. Louis

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