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From: "Sandy Bollhorst" <>
Subject: Re: [ILMARION] MARION HANBAUM
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 04:17:38 -0500
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Cheryl thanks so very muchyou are such a help
Sandy
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From: "Cheryl Helm" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ILMARION] MARION HANBAUM


> Sandy,
>
> I found a little more information this evening that may be helpful or
confusing, or both ;-).
>
> Charles William Hanbaum married Caroline Taylor in Fayette County on
2/21/1889 according to the Illinois State Archives
> marriage database.
>
> In the 1900 census for Clay County, Oskaloosa Township, Roll 243 Book 1,
Page 39a, Household/Family #53, I found:
>
> William Hanbaum, b Dec 1862, age 37, m 11 years, b OH, parents born
Germany
> Carrie S, b Sept 1870, age 29, m 11 yrs, 5 children born 5 living, b NY,
father born England, mother born Germany
> All five children were listed as born in IL
> Lena M.M., daughter, b Jun 1890, age 10
> Emma W.K., b Sept 1891, age 8
> Lilly M.L., b Jul 1894, age 5
> Ernest F.L., b Jun 1897, age 3
> Martha M., b Nov 1898, age 2
>
> In the same census year, same county and township, p 48a, I found:
>
> John F. Hanbaum, b Sept 1839, age 60, m 38 years, b Germany, both parents
b Germany resided in us 42 years
> Mary, wife, b April 1840, age 60, 9 children born 7 living, b Germany,
both parents b Germany, resided in US 42 years
> Mary, daughter, Nov 1878, age 21, b IL
> John, son, May 1882, age 16, b IL
> (according to *my* math, his birth year should have been 1884-1885,
which
> makes him the right age to be the John C. Hanbaum in the 1920 Ohio
census, see
> below)
>
> At the LDS site, I found an IGI marriage record for John Frederick Hanbaum
and Mary Meyers, 24 May 1861, Cuyahoga County, OH.
> The following site has several Hanbaum/Hannebaum etc. individuals in
Cuyahoga County who might be related:
>
> http://members.aol.com/elasabe/eurolist.htm
>
> I believe that your Charles William Hanbaum might be related to Edward
Fred Hanbaum who married Sarah E. Clark in Clay County
> on 09/30/1886. I found this couple in LaClede Twp, Fayette County in the
1920 census:
>
> 1920 Fayette County, LaClede Twp, p 1A, Household/Family #29
> E. Fred Hanbaum, age 55, b OH, both parents born in Germany
> Sarah E, age age 53, b IL, both parents born in Indiana
> Louis E, son, age 24, b IL
> Winfield L., son, age 20, b IL
>
> Three pages later, I found:
>
> 1920 Fayette County, LaClede Twp, p 4A, Household 97, Family 101
> John F. Hanbaum, age 79, immigrated in 1859, naturalized in 1864, b
Germany
> Henrietta (??? her name is difficult to read), age 69, b Germany
> -- is this a second wife?
>
> In 1920, Marion County, Centralia, I found Russell Hanbaum, age 20, born
IL, both parents born IL, enumerated as the adopted
> son of William J. and Kate M. Scott. I found what looks like the marriage
for this couple in the IL State Archives Database:
> Wilbur J. Scott married Katie M. Hanbaum on 4/24/1895 in Clay County IL.
It is curious that they were married in 1895,
> Russell was born in 1900, but in 1920 he was enumerated as
William/Wilbur's adopted son --- unless William J. Scott is not the
> same man.
>
> There is also a marriage for Caroline Hanbaum to Louis Reinhard in Clay
County on 10/23/1895. I have no idea who she belongs
> to
>
> In 1920, Clay County, Oskaloosa Township, p 8B, I found what looks like
Charles and Caroline again
>
> Charles Hanbaum, age 57, b OH, both parents born in Germany
> (he was indexed as Theodora Hanbaum because the writing was so hard to
read)
> Caroline S, age 49, b NY, FA born England, MO born Germany
> Lena, age 29, b IL
> Ernest, age 22, b IL
> Martha M (or H), age age 21, b IL
> Minnie (or Winnie), age 18, b IL
>
> And in Cuyahoga County OH in 1920, I found
> John C. Hanbaum, age 35, b IL, both parents born Germany
> Wife's name is very difficult to read, might be Irene M., age 29, born OH
both parents born OH
>
> Assuming most of these folks are related it appears that John F. Hanbaum,
born in Germany in 1839, and immigrated to the US
> about 1858-1859. He and Mary were in Ohio by 1862, judging by ages of
Charles William and Edward Fred, and in IL by 1878.
> With the marriages in the IL state archives database, it's possible that
their children included:
>
> Charles William Hanbaum married Caroline Taylor
> Edward Fred Hanbaum, married Sarah Clark
> Caroline Hanbaum, married Louis Reinhard
> Kate M. Hanbaum, married Wilbur J. Scott
> Mary Hanbaum
> John Hanbaum
>
> This would give us 6 of the 7 living children shown for Mary in the 1900
census.
>
> Ancestry.com had some additional information on some of Charles William &
Caroline's children:
>
> Lillie M. Hanbaum,
> Birth: 4 Jul 1894, Farina, Fayette County IL
> Death: 26 Oct 1975, Niles, Berrien, Michigan
> Spouse: Ned Shafer
>
> Emma Wilhelmina Carolina Hanbaum was listed as the spouse of
> William Lawrence Sabin, son of Morgan Lewis Sabin and Harriet Hussey
> Birth: 8 February 1891, Fayette County, Farina IL
> Married: 21 March 1921
> Death: 18 Oct 1962, Pontiac, Livingston, IL
>
> Lena Hanbaum
> Birth: 1891, Fayette, Farina IL
> Death: ??
> Spouse: Harry Hartline
>
> From the Illinois Death Index
>
> Fayette County (all three in Farina)
> Carl William Hanbaum, 5-4-1932
> John Fred Hanbaum, 11-10-1922
> Sarah E. Hanbaum, 4-1-1937
> Clay County, Oskaloosa Twp
> Glen Allen Hanbaum, 7-26-1931
>
> I hope this provides you with some helpful leads to follow. Good luck.
>
> Cheryl
>
>
>
>
>
> Sandy Bollhorst wrote:
>
> > Can anyone help me with ANY kind of information on the Hanbaum surname.
> > All the information I have is Charles William Hanbaum & Caroline Taylor
> > married. I think they had a son Ernest who married Mary Ann Jones and
they
> > (Ernest & Mary) resided either in Fayette or Marion County in the late
> > 1940's. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
> > Sandy
> >
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