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From: "John Wilson" <>
Subject: [India-L] Army births
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:41:14 +1300
References: <46.2355aae5.29b263f7@aol.com>

John:

English Birth, Death & Marriage Indices for Overseas events
include Births, Deaths & Marriages for Army personnel.

They are described on the Office of National Statistics,
General Registry Office (ONS, GRO) website:

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/registration/default.asp

then go to "Overseas"

The original Indices are in the Family Record Centre, London (FRC),
and are avaliable on fiche (with F.... numbers). There is a set here in the
National Library, Wellington.

To order "misc" or "overseas" certificates from the English ONS GRO,
there is a special light blue "overseas events" order form from the FRC or
Family Research Centre. You can view the form on their website but not
download it. But you can order by letter, see reply from ONS, GRO
below. See the suggestion in their reply that births sometimes appeared
several times (often twice, and up to five times!) to get extra pay!

While you do not need to give the fiche number, ensure that you specify
the Index; ie Chaplains, Regimental, Regimental Supplementary or Ionian
Islands. Many of the Regimental births are in England, not overseas.

Yours, John Wilson (Wellington, New Zealand)


> > Mr Wilson
> >
> > Thank you for your enquiry
> >
> > I will reply to your queries as they appear :
>>
> > 1. You are more than welcome to write to us to apply for certificates
at:
> > Overseas Section, GRO, Trafalgar Road, Birkdale, Southport, PR8 2HH.
> > (cheques P/O payable to ONS )
> >
> > 2. Regimental Returns - Apparently, A Soldiers pay improved the larger
> > his family was, If he was moved from regiment to regiment, he always
> > made sure the docs clerk knew he had children. This resulted in multiple
> > registrations for the same child. If we get an application for these
> > children, we always check all entries and produce the certificate from
> > the entry that has the most information on it. So, yes, give us all the
> > references.
>>
> > 3. No, there is no need for the Fiche ( F ) number as well as the
> > reference.
> >
> > 4. Best advice for the unclear ones is take a best guess and make a
> > note for us that it was unclear and we will see what we can do with it
> > this end.
> >
> > I hope this is of some assistance to you.
> >
> > Overseas section.
> >
NB: email address for queries:
England & Wales
Overseas Events


----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2002 06:20
Subject: [India-L] Army births


> What was the normal procedure for the registration of a birth following
the
> baptism of a child whose father was a serving member in the British Army.
> Did the soldier have to inform his regiment or was it the responsibility
of
> the church.
>
> Did all births get registered in the Army Register of Births in the UK.?
> Where would one to apply for a birth certificate.
>
> The regiment in question is the 18th Royal Irish stationed in Secunderabad
> in 1864.
>
> Thanks for any advise and comments
>
> John
>

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