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From: "douglas henry" <>
Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] MY HAVILAND STORY
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 15:42:02 -0500
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I have resubmitted the name haviland for cross names as I may have made a
mistake on the first search ...it offers an extended search which will take
a day or two ----- meantime please consider( onegreatfamily.com ) as i
cannot forward their records as it is against my contract.
From: "douglas henry" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] MY HAVILAND STORY


> there many mistakes in the early census takers as they were poor at
spelling
> and often used the soundex system. without knowing that they were doing
so.
> I looked up haviland and asked for other matches in its spelling and it
gave
> none . I looked up dehaviland and there were only 2 .very early death
dates.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Linda ." <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:09 AM
> Subject: [Irish-Roots] MY HAVILAND STORY
>
>
> > Doug, I'm having trouble understanding you. Are you saying there's no
> other
> > way to spell Haviland? And when you name the cities, are they in Ireland
> or
> > the U.S.? I apologize, but I'm in the U.S. and looking at it from that
> > angle. In the U.S. censuses Haviland is spelled many different ways when
> the
> > people are listed as coming from Ireland; that's why it's difficult to
> sort
> > out the original name. I'm trying to do determine what other name they
> could
> > have been, as one U.S. Census lists them as Havlin, then Havelin, then
> > Haviland, then back to Havlin again. I have tried searching for
O'Havlin,
> > too. I'm just trying to see if there's a surname similar to these in
> Ireland
> > that I've overlooked. My ancestors, John and Ann, listed as Havlin in
the
> > 1850 Census (but possibly Haviland in the 1840 Census) for Boston,
> > Massachusetts, came over sometimes in the 1820s-1830s, it appears. The
> 1850
> > Census lists their first child, my great-great-grandfather, John B.
> > Haviland/Havlin, as born in Massachusetts in 1835, although the parents
> may
> > have lied to make him an American citizen. All their subsequent children
> are
> > listed as born there, too..James, Michael, Bernard/Dermont and Ann. I do
> not
> > know the mother Ann's maiden-name. She may have been a year older than
her
> > husband, born in 1806 with John (Sr.) born in 1807. I have been having a
> > very difficult time finding out more, just discovering recently that
John
> B.
> > was noted at his death as being "Irish Catholic". He died in Tennessee
and
> > I'm still trying to find out where he's buried, as they didn't keep
> records
> > there at that time and he could have been brought back to Boston for
> burial.
> > His Civil War records list him as John B. HAVLIN, but spelling was
> atrocious
> > then. I have been told there were no Havilands in Ireland, the
"official"
> > Havilands of the China and deHavilland line, but I haven't been able to
> > verify that. So that's the whole story, all I can tell you...Linda
> Haviland
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "douglas henry" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] Havilands?
> >
> >
> > > i have a full list of surnames and there is no other way to spell it.
I
> > > found some from cleveland, sylvania, lucas,.and Defiance counties..
give
> > > some names and i look further . I found over 17000 Henry names all
over
> > the
> > > world including Irland , France and England etc.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "douglas henry" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:19 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] Havilands?
> >
> >
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