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From: "Jean R." <>
Subject: Re: [UK-Irish] Added Note -- KIDD/BURNS ancestors "accle-a-moor"
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 06:58:52 -0700
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Hi Pete, now that KIDD surname is interesting, too, and not often found in
Ireland. On the 1890 Matheson survey (distribution of surnames based on
births of 5 or more) KIDD births in Ireland for that year were only 28,
principally in Cos. Antrim, Armagh and Dublin. Cos. Antrim and Armagh are
in the Northern Ireland portion of the province of Ulster. Dublin is in the
province of Leinster. The breakdown by provinces: Ulster 18, Leinster 9,
Munster 1, Connaught 0. Jean

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From: "ENSEMBLE BIBUX" <>
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Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 1:24 AM
Subject: [UK-Irish] Burns ancestors "accle-a-moor"


> Hi I have been researching my Burns ancestors for over 20 years, and am
still struggling to progress......
>
> Here are the details... My gt-gt-grandfather, Patrick Burns married in
preston in 1865 to Ann Kidd... He & his wife are both classed as born in
Ireland on the 1871 census..He died in 1875... She is not the witness at
death and is unheard of afterwards..
>
> Through research I have uncovered 2 brothers & 2 sisters all of whom
married in Preston between 1864 & 1885... John married Maria Heneghan in
1864 ( This is the first documentation I have of the family in the UK)
,Maria died in 1884, and the following year John married Mary Maloney an
Irish widow....
>
> Bridget married Francis McGurty in 1870 and converted through adult
baptism to Catholocism the following year.... It is from her adult baptismal
record I have the mother's maiden name..
>
> Margaret married Owen Connolly in 1867... & she died in 1870...
>
> Thomas married Mary Cain in 1877... He was a lot vyounger than the
others & onlky seems to have popped up when Margaret & Patrick died..
>
> Basically, the first record I have is the 1864 marriage of John & Maria
Heneghan... I know she was from Mayo, as where the witnesses ( census
detail) ... This is the only marriage cert, I have where one of the siblings
did not witness, therefore I presume they were not in the UK at that time...
>
> Census Detail is poor... Whilst several neighbours are given a county &
even townland the only census return from 1871 - 1901 to state other than
Ireland is Thomas Burns in 1901 who is redorded as being boirn in "Ireland,
Accle -a- moor"... I cannot find any trace of such a place in searches of
Irish townlands....
>
> Also Bridget had an illegitimate son James Burns born in Ireland
according to the 1871 census in 1860...
>
> The ages on birth & death certs is such that I guess the yrs of birth to
be ... JOHN c. 1840, MARGARET c. 182, PATRICK c. 1843, BRIDGET c. 1844,
THOMAS c. 1856..
>
> All were married in Church Of England, John & Patrick had their children
bapt. in C of E,Bridget (see above) married in Cof E then bap.t as Catholic
herself, children all RC... Margt's one daughter was RC, althoughb her
parents md. in CofE///
>
> From marrriage certs father's name JOHN BURNS alternately LABOURER or
FARMER on theses marriage certs. Mother's name ( from Bridget's adult
baptism) MARY ANN O'SHAUGHNESSY... <snip>
>
> So I desperately need help tracking a family with these names form a
place called "accle-a-moor"
>
> Regards,
>
> Pete Burns.
>

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