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From: "Damore" <>
Subject: Re: [Irish-in-UK] DistantCousin.com -- Surnames: Keefe, Nichols,Lapham in Wales - also 1930 USA Federal Censusenumeratorquestionreplace of birth
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:51:58 -0500
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Hi Jean,

Actually, that is my Hannah Lapham in the Fall River Census of
1880. By 1871 she is a widow in Cardiff, Wales. How she came
to be in Fall River, I have no idea. Fall River was a great place for
the textile industry and most of my relatives were weavers from
Lancashire. Mary Ann Keefe Nicholls is also in Fall River, but
that is a decade or so after Hannah and her family arrive there.
Ann M. Nicholls (Mary Ann's daughter) arrives in Fall River
sometime in the 1870's; she does work in the cotton industry.
I have always assumed that she went there because the
Lapham's were there and she could easily find work there.

Two of the Lapham sons listed seaman as occupation so maybe
they somehow landed in Fall River and the rest of the family
came there.

I was hoping to find some Keefe's or Lapham's who recognized this family
and might know part of their story and know where in Ireland the Keefe's
originated.

Thank you for all your help,
Ann


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean R." <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Irish-in-UK] DistantCousin.com -- Surnames: Keefe,
Nichols,Lapham in Wales - also 1930 USA Federal Census
enumeratorquestionreplace of birth


> Listers may want to check out the old USA (scanned) city directories and
> other data provided free at DistantCousin.com.
>
> Ann -- Fascinated by that LAPHAM surname. A gentleman named Hugh Watkins
> has a LAPHAM one-name study on the Internet which you can "google" to
> find.
> I noted LAPHAMs with references to some of your locations you mentioned in
> Wales, elsewhere. If his contact e-mail address is still viable, he may
> be
> able to help you sort things out.
>
> Regarding the 1930 US Federal Census. I thought perhaps, if the couple
> was
> deceased, their children may have given a detailed "place of birth" for
> each
> parent.
>
> Also, some states have taken their own odd censuses in the years between
> the
> Federal censuses.
>
> Do you have a paid subscription to Ancestry.com? The online US Census
> data
> (Ancestry.com) does has a Hannah LAPHAM in Fall River, MA, 1880, born
> Ireland circa 1831. If not, perhaps a kind soul will check for you.
>
> City directories for Fall River, MA, 1853-1935, may provide more clues,
> such
> as full name of all employed adults in the city, their occupation, place
> of
> employment, home address, and whether a boarder. Those for the time period
> 1880s-90s could help to fill in gap in census data due to the 1890 US
> Federal Census being accidentally destroyed. Paul Douglas SCHWEIKLE,
> professional genealogist, address 142 E. Maple Avenue (A), Van Wert, OH
> 45891, USA, has advertised in "Everton's Genealogical Helper" magazine for
> decades including as recently as 2001, although I have no issues beyond
> that. Mr. SCHWEIKLE, for a small fee, advertises "look-ups" for elusive
> ancestors in hundreds of old (major) USA city directories, as well as
> London, England 1677-1823. He has a website but not sure if it is current
> and no e-mail address. He has been considered very reliable in the past.
> I
> suppose one could write to him. I didn't see a scanned directory for Fall
> River at DistantCousin.com but may have missed it. One might also contact
> a
> MA archival library or website.
>
> Personally, I have had great results by enlisting the help of USA county
> historical societies to search for documents (wills, court cases, land
> records, b/m/d extracts, newspaper announcements, etc.), on my particular
> families.
>
> Jean
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damore" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Irish-in-UK] Surnames: Keefe, Nichols,Lapham in Wales - also
> 1930 USA Federal Census enumeratorquestionre place of birth
>
>
>> Hi Jean,
>>
>> I have Hannah and George Lapham on the 1851 census and he was
>> supposedly born in Frome, England which is why I assumed they
>> met and married in Wales. I think that the Keefe's came to Wales
>> during the famine. I want to thank you for the information about
>> which county most Keefe's were located in Ireland. Unfortunately,
>> both Hannah and Mary Ann were dead by 1930. I have them in
>> several censuses and they list only Ireland as their birthplace.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Ann
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jean R." <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Irish-in-UK] Surnames: Keefe, Nichols,Lapham in Wales -
>> also
>> 1930 USA Federal Census enumerator questionre place of birth
>>
>>
>>> Hi Ann - You seem to be implying that your Hannah KEEFE married George
>>> LAPHAM in Wales.
>
>
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