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From: "michael purcell" <>
Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Marshall & Baltinglass
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:27:56 +0000
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Carlow is simply called Carlow because our invaders could not get their
tongue around Catherlough so it was pronounced Catherlow which in time lead
to Carlow , the House of Commons Journals give good example of the progress
towards Carlow ..........recently on B.B.C. Leighlin Bridge was called
"lay-linbridge , mick

On 12/14/06, Gerry Moloney <> wrote:
>
> Turtle,
> Hope to make it in to Byrne's on Sat.
>
> I wish I had dates for the establishment of Hebron and Jerusalem. This
> would make things a lot easier.
>
> Also Carlow used to be spelt with the 'w' on old maps i.e. Carlo.
>
> So I have a theory that it is named after Carlovingian dynasty (also
> called Carolingian) who may well have been forefathers of Normans like
> Marshall, Lamporte, etc
>
> The Carlowvingian dynasty succeeded the Merovingian dynasty and ruled
> Europe from 750 - 1000 approx. This would not be too many generations before
> the birth of Marshall (150-200yrs approx) and, therefore, having been in
> control of Carlow, Kilkenny, etc he could have named all of them i.e.
> Jerusalem, Hebron, Carlo, Pembroke, Usk, Tintern Abbey etc etc etc.
>
> The thing would be to search for some connection between Marshall and the
> Carlovingian dynasty..............but time prevents.
>
> Regards
> Gerry
>
>
>
> 'You can lead a man to knowledge but you can't make him think.'
> Gerry Moloney (Lecturer)
> Computing Dept., ITCarlow, Ireland.
> Office: (059)9170455
> Mobile: (087)9184000
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:
> ] On Behalf Of Turtle Bunbury
> Sent: 14 December 2006 11:42
> Cc:
> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Marshall & Baltinglass
>
> Hi Gerry, Robert etc,
> Good to hear from you and thanks for your interesting take on the Tuatha
> de
> Dan! I had heard the Jeremiah theory before and I am also curious about
> this
> ancient fascination with golden cows so I won't rule anything out either.
> I
> was never sure why Jerusalem and Hebron were so called ... do you have
> dates
> for their establishment? There is also a theory that Baltinglass in Co.
> Wicklow is named after "the pure fire of Baal" - see
>
> http://www.turtlebunbury.com/history/history_houses/hist_hse_rathsallagh.htm
> #megalithic
> Not sure why Carlow is so called.
> As for William Marshall, I have a story about him on my site at
>
> http://www.turtlebunbury.com/history/history_heroes/hist_hero_wmarshall.htm
> which should probably be updated...
> Best for now,
> Turtle
>
> PS: I'm having a book signing for "Vanishing Ireland" in Byrnes Bookshop,
> Tullow St, Carlow, this coming Saturday afternoon from 2 - 4pm.
>
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